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"there was always some new machine, by which the packers could get as much work out of a child as they had been able to get out of a man, and for a third of the pay."
Marx intensifies
Post from the The Jungle forum
Just wanted to share some historical context I learned when starting this book, in reference to the See Sharp edition that showed up first for me on Pagebound by default. It claims to be the "original uncensored version," with the 1906 first book edition supposedly being a watered down censored version that Sinclair was forced to make. I'm reading from a physical 1906 first edition so I was curious about that and looked it up. The TL;DR is that the See Sharp edition represents the original version that was published as a serial in the socialist Appeal to Reason newspaper, but the 1906 book version and all subsequent editions are what Sinclair actually preferred, and it fixed a bunch of issues with the original such as with the Lithuanian names and such. For a longer dive, check out https://www.hnn.us/article/the-fictitious-suppression-of-upton-sinclairs-the-
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I love how the first chapter starts out, not immediately beating us over the head with the horrors of the workplace, but with a joyous community gathering, and then slowly just sprinkles in references to the hard and dangerous work that the people there do (so and so is strong from lifting meat, other person isn't married yet because he keeps getting sick from injuries at work, etc), and then there's little glimpses of the more general socioeconomic problems that get caused by the state of poverty and long working hours that people live in.
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The Jungle
Upton Sinclair
Neospirifer commented on a post from the Pagebound Club forum
Just a fun question on my mind! I have plenty 5 stars books but I'm definitely not looking forward to rereading some of them lol. Be it 'cause of angst or the massive character developement šāāļø
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I was mostly attracted to this book because of the "socially awkward" part of the title. As someone for whom the idea of knocking on my neighbors' doors without sounding like the Communist version of a Jehovah's Witness, recruiting for an org, or leading protest chants is frankly terrifying, I was hoping for something more specifically aimed at tackling organizing for socially awkward people. It turned out to be more general reflections on, and motivation for, local organizing from the author's experience, which is fine but not really what I was looking for.
In general I think the author offers good advice on organizing, especially for people who are just becoming politically aware and want to jump into things but don't know where to start. I have some disagreements on some things. For example, he implies in an early chapter that if you or your org isn't creating immediately noticable change or disruption right now, or even if it's just been around for a long time, then it's ineffective or ideologically compromised, which I think is a bit of an idealistic take that doesn't consider that a lot of revolutionary work, especially in the imperial core and at the current time, consists of simply building class consciousness and organizational capacity, which may seem boring and uneventful compared to flashy direct action that has a big immediate impact. Not to say direct action doesn't have a tactical place within a diversity of tactics, but we don't get to revolution by just doing a bunch of direct actions.
I also disagree with his chapter on electoralism. He says that he doesn't want to discourage people from voting if that's what they want to do, but most of the chapter is spent telling us how voting is not only ineffective but actively harmful, so I think discouraging people is heavily implied. I definitely agree that we're not going to vote our way to liberation within a bourgeois democracy (or what passes for democracy), and that "vote blue no matter who" doesn't count as harm reduction, but there are still plenty of material reasons to engage in electoralism as a tactic: running communist and socialist candidates creates opportunities for education and agitation, and creating coalitions with non-socialists to support specific policies and reforms (rather than candidates or parties) can both provide some material relief to certain groups and create a more favorable terrain for future struggle. The author draws a strong moral equivalence between the two major parties that I don't disagree with, but I think it's a stretch to say that we're therefore justified in not engaging with either even in case where some short term gains can be made. The author does say that if nothing else, encouraging people to vote has some value in that it can expose them to the truth about how undemocratic this country is, which I agree with, but there's more to it than this that I think he's missing.
Overall, a good overview of what local organizing can look like based on the experiences of the author, especially useful for people new to organizing, but not quite specific enough to socially awkward people as I was looking for, and not quite as ideologically rigorous as I would like.
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Starting Somewhere: Community Organizing for Socially Awkward People Who've Had Enough
Roderick Douglass
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Ok, this chapter on āElection Rejectionā has been most challenging for me, personally. Douglass lists many ways that elections (in the US) have not ultimately been effective in improving conditions for the oppressed nor even to shift the status quo. He points to the many ways the two-party system here ends up working in tandem to continue upholding the existing systems of power, and reminding us of how the Electoral College effectively amplifies the power of white voters over all others.
He then goes further to claim that āparticipation in the current electoral system presented to American voters is actively harmfulā. Admittedly, Iām not very well-read in true leftist writings. Any familiarity I have has come through interaction with more casual writing on various blogs or social media over the years. So maybe Iām just stuck in the ādenialā phase Douglass lists here.
But I donāt personally feel like he fully argued his case here beyond quoting several others on how our current electoral system sucks and still results in oppressive laws unpopular to voters. I would argue this is a case for voting in itself not being enough, but not necessarily an active harm. Maybe Iām projecting too much, but it reads more like a bitterness/disillusioned response to the betrayal of rallying for someone to let you down once theyāre elected (to be fair, I felt similarly burned by Obama, who was my first ever presidential vote š). The idea that, for example, voting against Republicans now does no āharm reductionā (im using this in the general sense) because Democrats have enacted harmful policies and do not do enough to undo Republicans, feels a lot like flattening both parties harm into the same intensity and flavor, and that really rubs me the wrong way in February 2026 with the sheer scale of the hell that has broken out among us. Just because ICE/DHS, for another example, was strengthened by both R & D administrations, does not mean we would have this same situation if that shithole-for-a-mouth in chief weāre out of the picture (IMO!).
He closes out the chapter with a quote from George Jacksonās Blood In My Eye that essentially claims the better option is to have the power held by someone as overtly as fascist as possible to awaken the public to the reality that weāve been under fascist rule already. (Hello 2025-2026!) My inner pragmatist sees the logic behind that, especially on a spiritual level. But Iām really struggling to concede that just because a mask-off fascism would make our reality more obvious to more people, that it is indeed the ābetterā option and that itās worth the harm/death/destruction that it comes with.
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Where the Axe Is Buried
Ray Nayler
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Post from the Starting Somewhere: Community Organizing for Socially Awkward People Who've Had Enough forum
There's definitely something to be said for being flexible in organizing in response to material conditions (that's just good dielectics), including leaving old ineffective orgs and starting new ones. But there's sort of an implication in this section that I don't really agree with, which is that if an org isn't either openly radical enough or isn't creating big visible systemic changes right now, or even if it has just existed for a long time, then it's necessarily ineffective.