avatarPagebound Royalty Badge

mintcasette

she/her/hers • wlw rofan, litfic, and mystery leftist, antiracist, lgbtq+

294 points

0% overlap
Sapphic Across Genres
Pride 2026

mintcasette commented on a post

1d
  • Bad Gays: A Homosexual History
    Thoughts from 7% (Hadrian)
    spoilers

    View spoiler

    6
    comments 4
    Reply
  • mintcasette earned a badge

    1d
    Pride 2026

    Pride 2026

    2
    1
    Reply

    mintcasette commented on shaddie's review of Bad Gays: A Homosexual History

    1d
  • Bad Gays: A Homosexual History
    shaddie
    Jun 04, 2026
    Bad Gays: A Homosexual History
    2.0
    Enjoyment: Quality: Characters: Plot:

    around the 50% mark i started to wonder: if these are the Bad Gays, who are the Good Gays?

    i feel as if the introduction and conclusion of this book was ripped and pasted in its entirety from a better, more interesting book. (nonetheless i do think the writers thought they were writing that book, and the occasional glimmers of that book are why this is a 2 star and not a 1 star review.) the introduction makes some interesting promises: pitting oscar wilde, the legendary pioneer, against his selfish miscreant lover who ruined his life, and arguing that both of these figures should be accepted as important parts of queer history. if this is the framing we’ve chosen then it’s clear: wilde is the Good Gay, and bosie is the Bad Gay. (never mind that wilde engaged in plenty of activities, like sex tourism, that the writers condemn in other chapters: it works well enough as an idea)

    but aside from a couple of moments and well-chosen profiles (i particularly liked the chapter on j. edgar hoover and roy cohn), the writers are far more interested in paying lip service to this idea than actually excavating and assessing the legacies of problematic queer figures. instead they choose to retread histories that are already celebrated - james i and vi, frederick the great, t.e. lawrence - and attempt to examine their legacies and their contributions to the capitalist and imperialist constructions of power. one has to wonder why oscar wilde doesn’t make an independent appearance given his own legacy is much murkier than the introduction suggests. so, okay, the Bad Gays can sometimes overlap with the Good Gays. that’s fine. that makes sense. i guess “Powerful (often White, often Wealthy, often Male) Gays Who Exploited Others In Their Own Identity Formation” doesn’t make for as snappy of a title.

    except no, that also doesn’t seem to be what the book is trying to say because we move at around the 50% mark from discussing bad people who happened to be gay and into discussing Bad Gays as a complete proper noun: gays who are bad, in large part, because they affected other gays, or because their identity was tied up in the exploitation and harm of others, or because they used their identity to legitimise their hatred. essentially their badness is inherently connected with their gayness. but then if that’s the case, why spend so much time on satirists and pornographers? why devote a chapter to ronnie kray, a man who had very little impact on wider culture in comparison to some of the other people being discussed? that’s not to mention the extremely tenuous links this book creates, jumping from idea to idea without much analysis or evaluation. (one line that stood out to me: ““Blind to the meaning of the enormous economic and racial privilege of her upbringing”, hardly developed, left to just sit there in a wider paragraph and as a moral condemnation. like oh okay. cool. do we have a source for that?)

    but okay. so we’re talking about gays whose identity is founded on a basis of exploitation. sure, fair enough. i guess it makes sense why our profiles are so limited to white male figures. but then why throw in additional chapters on margaret mead and yukio mishima? why spend a chunk of this book largely about western capitalism and imperialism explaining the history of homosexuality in japan (in a hugely reductive way which serves to re-print the mythology that the writers love to condemn, that the “third world” was totally cool and fine with gays until the nasty westerners took over).

    that’s not even getting into how shoddily written it is. (i almost rage-quit the book at this line: “It was that November, during the revolt, that Lawrence experienced one of his only confirmable sexual experiences […] It is difficult to make sense of the truth of this encounter” is it confirmable or not? why are we contradicting ourselves on the exact same page? as someone who is pretty familiar with t.e. lawrence i’m reasonably sure the writers meant to say that he experienced one of the only sexual experiences the celibate and potentially asexual lawrence would admit to, but if i didn’t know anything about him i’d be baffled! this doesn’t make sense! who edited this!)

    it’s also not getting into how poorly researched it is. most chapters have about the depth you could get from wikipedia (and i would know, because i matched a lot of the information in the book to things i already knew. from wikipedia.) other people on this app have noted disparities in the research that are incredibly easy to notice if you’re familiar with the periods or figures being written about. many sources with questionable authorship and authority are used uncritically. (while the book regularly notes that anthropologists like margaret mead and researchers like roger casement used questionable sources to make sweeping judgements, it’s hard to take that seriously when the sources being used here are just as questionable and presented without comment.)

    one of the most egregious failures to me is the chapter on yukio mishima, where the writers quote from his 1949 novel confessions of a mask to describe mishima’s early sexual awakenings. confessions contains undeniably autobiographical information, but it is still a novel: and even if you want to accept its details as fact, it feels like a wild misstep to include it in a non-fiction book without stating that these sources come from a fictionalised novel. later in the chapter, the writers make the curious choice of focusing on forbidden colors and, in more depth (including quoting from it), kyoko’s house. both of these are pretty minor works and the latter was never published in english: the quotes from the novel and the descriptions of its plot come from the biography by john nathan. given that you can find (the very homoerotic) the sailor who fell from grace in a lovely vintage classics collectors edition at most waterstones, the choice to use kyoko’s house feels a bit strange until you realise that the writers of this book have, most likely, not read any of mishima’s oeuvre other than confessions, and are working off of third hand information from one singular source. (it’s also one of the three novels that are adapted into paul schrader’s 1985 film mishima: a life in four chapters. coincidence? doubtful! of course, schrader commissioned his own translation of kyoko’s house in order to adapt it, which shows much more artistic and journalistic integrity than this chapter does.) and then this line:

    The potency of his prose surely emerges from the fact that these are Mishima’s words ventriloquized.

    first of all, you aren’t reading his prose. you’re reading a translation by a biographer. second of all….no? if you’re going to make the incredibly reductive claim that an author’s work consists entirely of their own words and ideas through fictional mouthpieces, you need to source that! once again going back to the writers jumping from idea to idea, making sweeping judgements and conclusions that don’t actually seem to be backed up in anything.

    all of this may seem like nitpicking but really, i’m just showing the most egregious failures i noticed from the chapter i had the most prior information about. if i knew more primary information about the other figures in this book im sure i could make just as nitpicky notes on all the other chapters. unquestionably, i think if a nonfiction book falls apart the second you have more information than a wikipedia page, it has likely failed in its approach. and what an approach it is.

    so again, the same question: if there are Bad Gays, surely there must be Good Gays? so who are they?

    and really i can only conclude that the Good Gays are supposed to be us. the reader: or at least the book’s assumed and intended reader, which is to say white, educated, male, gay, out. (the jokes aimed directly at the reader made that pretty clear: one that stood out to me was “whose worship of masculine vitality might remind you of some Grindr profiles you’ve seen – maybe your own”, a line written about none other than nazi politician ernst röhm. sidenote: is this where james somerton got his half-remembered anecdotes about nazi fitness culture?) in order to cast judgement on a figure as a Bad Gay one must assume that the reader and writer are expected to be Good Gays: modern, liberal, flirts with leftist theory without much regard for praxis. happy to drop names like marsha p. johnson and james baldwin into conversation but with very little desire to take their ideas further. we’re too contemporary and too aware of right and wrong to have any alignment with these Bad Gays, outside of snide jokes about their sexual proclivities. (my dear friend SmallDesires posited that this might be a holdover from the book’s beginning as a podcast: likely true! i didn’t think it worked!)

    it’s an insufferable and arrogant kind of approach that in my opinion can also be exceptionally harmful. we, the Good Gays, don’t have the same racist and colonial biases or the same fetishes for what we view as subaltern. we, the Good Gays, understand our identity and are flexible in its application. (other reviewers have noted this book’s propensity for bisexual and asexual erasure: a real Bad Gay bias seeping through.) we, the Good Gays, are happy to resist homophobia through solidarity. (i got a bit of a laugh when the writers state, re: the assassination of pim fortuyn, that “nonviolent activism might have” “effectively [combat] his politics”, in a book that pays lip service to civil activists, like james baldwin and audre lorde, who did not advocate for the effectiveness of nonviolent activism! truly a book by and for white men.) we, the Good Gays, criticise our heroes.

    and really i became incredibly and irrevocably irritated with this book at the line:

    This is rhetoric that should be familiar to anyone who has engaged with the mainstream respectability politics of gay rights movements. While a more developed analysis of sexuality (like the one we are proposing in this book) reveals otherwise, this line has always been popular for several reasons.

    the utter gall of claiming your work is a “more developed analysis of sexuality” while continuing to uphold your own version of respectability and identity politics! the arrogance of stating your work is “more developed” while you retell wikipedia articles in clunky, confusing, often entirely contradictory prose. the idea that half-formed profiles with downright bad sources make up much of anything: this hardly works as an entertaining bit of pop history, much less an “analysis of sexuality”. not even touching on the fact that nothing proposed in the book is really radical or new, and instead feels half-baked, a misremembered definition of intersectionality repackaged for white gay men.

    idk, maybe next time just stick with hosting your podcast?

    77
    comments 44
    Reply
  • mintcasette wrote a review...

    1d
  • Bad Gays: A Homosexual History
    mintcasette
    Jun 15, 2026
    Bad Gays: A Homosexual History
    3.0
    Enjoyment: 3.0Quality: 4.0Characters: 3.0Plot: 4.0
    🏳️‍🌈
    🏛️

    An okay introduction to the wide history of queerness across written history. I just wish it was more inclusive. This book covers 14 people and of those people, one is not a man and only one is not white. I know this is a book about “bad gays” so a call for inclusiveness is iffy but no one group is perfect. Evil isn’t particularly unique to white men either as proved by the list of podcast episodes they have.

    It just feels weird. Not just to complain that a book about terrible people isn’t diverse enough. But also because it is so focused on men that the chapter on Mead, which is also the longest one if my math is correct, is also the one with the least quips/notes/sidebars/references. Like. Why.

    Why does the singular person of color in the book commit ritual suicide? Why does it feel like a woman and a POC were added for inclusivity in a book about evil people???

    1
    comments 0
    Reply
  • mintcasette earned a badge

    1d
    Level 3

    Level 3

    250 points

    3
    1
    Reply

    mintcasette commented on mintcasette's update

    mintcasette made progress on...

    2d
    Bad Gays: A Homosexual History

    Bad Gays: A Homosexual History

    Huw Lemmey

    38%
    0
    1
    Reply

    mintcasette made progress on...

    2d
    Bad Gays: A Homosexual History

    Bad Gays: A Homosexual History

    Huw Lemmey

    38%
    0
    1
    Reply

    mintcasette commented on a post

    3d
  • daisybea
    Edited
    Sapphic book recs with a happy ending?

    I feel like recently all the sapphic books I’ve been reading have ended with either one or both of them dying or being traumatised so much that they don’t get their happily ever after. So I was looking for some suggestions of books that have a sapphic romance where they both are alive at the end of the book and at least somewhat happy. I typically read in the fantasy/ Sci-fi genre but I’m open to anything! I know there is a real problem with the lack of happy sapphics across all media types so I’m looking for books that prove them wrong. Happy pride everyone! EDIT: thank you all for so many recommendations! I'm currently in the process of putting them all onto a list here https://pagebound.co/lists/9ded0eb1-9e3c-4282-af1e-462711bf3c74

    26
    comments 51
    Reply
  • mintcasette commented on a post

    3d
  • Forest Euphoria: The Abounding Queerness of Nature
    Thoughts from 8% (page 20)
    spoilers

    View spoiler

    9
    comments 2
    Reply
  • mintcasette wrote a review...

    3d
  • Forest Euphoria: The Abounding Queerness of Nature
    mintcasette
    Jun 12, 2026
    Forest Euphoria: The Abounding Queerness of Nature
    4.0
    Enjoyment: 5.0Quality: 3.5Characters: 4.0Plot: 4.0
    🏳️‍🌈
    🐌

    An enjoyable listen! It’s more of a memoire that the author is using animals to make comparisons. It’s not the read that I thought I was going into but I appreciated the authors experiences and the facts they put into the book anyway.

    I don’t think that it’s misleading though. We constantly say that nature is gay and point out lions and swans and penguins but we’re missing something important. Humans are nature too. We’re make of the same stuff as lichen and snails and trees and lions. Just because the forest mushrooms didn’t invent concrete does not mean that we’re suddenly aliens on this planet. Our queerness is nature.

    0
    comments 0
    Reply
  • mintcasette finished a book

    3d
    Forest Euphoria: The Abounding Queerness of Nature

    Forest Euphoria: The Abounding Queerness of Nature

    Patricia Ononiwu Kaishian

    1
    0
    Reply

    mintcasette commented on a post from the Pagebound Club forum

    3d
  • anaconda
    Edited
    A horror tale of an intentional bug attack on my local library…

    So, our local library has a rule that no airtight boxes may be taken inside. Bags are okay, paper carton is okay, just nothing that would actually contain something small and alive. A bit ago I wondered why, asked a librarian, and she told me a genuinely insane story.

    In the early 2000‘s, a renowned history professor and researcher in the city‘s archives got a book from the library. Because he owns so many old, valuable books, he places all his new books in the freezer overnight. Usually this is an unnecessary precaution, but not this time. This time, he found dead booklice in his freezer. And good thing that he did, because some of the books he has were genuinely invaluable as he was researching deported and killed families during the second world war and had some of the only papers and archived material on deportations done by nazis in our city.

    He luckily noticed, and rather than just counting himself lucky, he told the library about it. The library was alarmed, bc they didn‘t know. They closed down for a couple days to look properly and found an infestation the likes they had never seen before. The librarian told me she has been doing this job for 45 years and to this day, this counts as the most insane infestations they had ever seen. The reason no one caught it earlier was because the infestation was largely targeting a section that, frankly, isn‘t as popular. It was mostly outdated academic books that were no longer used, second hand books, damaged editions… Other genres and shelves were infested largely too, but at least they were not decimated.

    So, the library closed down. Not only was a significant portion of their books damaged, they also didn‘t know how many people had accidentally taken these books home and brought bugs to their own personal book collection. The library stayed closed for almost a month as it was fumigated again and again, the carpets bleached, so many books thrown away and burned, each one had to be checked by hand… Finally, the spook was over, but it took genuinely 10 years for the library to fully recover in the amount of books being checked out because people were scared of bringing bugs home.

    So, that‘s it, right? Nope. Couple years later, a letter arrived at the library from someone whose friend had told them that he back then intentionally brought a little box filled with booklice to the library and released them. For no reason. He thought it was funny. Literally, that was it. He thought it was super funny, and when it all went down he just ducked his head and never said a word.

    This launched an investigation and apparently many of his friends were eager to rat him out because he just overall sucked. He was charged with something or the other and had pay for the entire efforts to get rid of the booklice. Don‘t know if he got any jail time or any other punishment, though I sure hope so because what the HELL.

    Well, I hope you enjoyed my little retelling of one of the most unnecessarily harmful and gross things that have ever happened in my local library.

    152
    comments 70
    Reply
  • mintcasette earned a badge

    3d
    Pagebound Royalty

    Pagebound Royalty

    Supports Pagebound with a monthly contribution 💕

    0
    0
    Reply

    mintcasette paused reading...

    3d
    Dungeon Crawler Carl (Dungeon Crawler Carl, #1)

    Dungeon Crawler Carl (Dungeon Crawler Carl, #1)

    Matt Dinniman

    0
    0
    Reply