Razorblade Tears
S.A. Cosby
"They'd set up some kind of prepaid funeral package." "Man. Was you setting up funeral arrangements at twenty-seven? I know I sure wasn't."
This made me start bawling, I won't lie. It gives me the impression that Isiah and Derek knew nobody would take care of them and/or they feared dying young.


jslynschapterverse commented...
28w
Same! I wish he had told Jazzy to take some time off until the situation was handled. With how rattled she was after just havign to fire the gun at ceiling, I dont want her to be a part of anymore altercation with the motorcycle gang

Razorblade Tears
S.A. Cosby
I cannot fathom Ike’s decision to not tell his wife that a dangerous biker gang might be coming after them for revenge??? Like dude, get them somewhere else for safety or at least tell them so they can be on the lookout. COME ON.
3.75 ⭐
This was okay/pretty good. I could see why it doesn’t sit well with some readers, as it is basically a gritty, crime, action movie with unlikeable characters in book form, and that requires a specific audience.
While I love a revenge story, this didn’t hit the notes that I enjoy in a revenge plot as much. Longer thoughts on what stood out/what I thought below. (Not my typical review style, but I took points I nixed adding to the forum and just dumped them here)
So, this is my first Southern noir. S.A. Cosby and Karin Slaugher have been on my TBR for way too long, and I know they are both recognized as powerhouses in the genre. (S.A. Cosby is literally referred to/known as the modern King of Southern Noir.) But outside of knowing this is a subgenre of crime fiction, I didn’t know much.
And before I started reading, I wanted to get a better sense of the genre, and in addition to a brief stint at YouTube and Wikipedia University, I found the following interesting articles: Southern Noir; The Rise of Rural Noir; Y’all Means All.
What stood out to me was that the genre often focuses on themes of poverty, racism, and violence, is known for its hard-boiled cynicism, and centers on morally ambiguous characters. There aren’t heroes, and the characters live in the gray (at best). I know this book got a lot of flak for its main characters being so problematic, and yeah, cringe. But that’s the point, and not just for the sake of being problematic/unlikeable and not as a reflection of Cosby.
Through the characters and the setting and their background, racism, homophobia, prejudices against ex-cons, etc., are being critiqued. Ike and Buddy Lee aren't meant to be people you root for; they're not heroes. They are products of the environments and cultures that shaped them, and the ugliness they carry is the whole point. Southern Noir doesn't clean that up or ask you to look away. It puts it front and center because that is how you're invited to reckon with it.
The discomfort is the critique. If these characters were likable and easy to sit with, the commentary would have no teeth. The genre has always used deeply flawed, often morally reprehensible people to hold a mirror up to systemic and cultural failures, and Cosby is doing exactly that here.
And look, it is completely valid to not want to spend your reading time with characters this difficult. That is a personal preference, not a moral stance. But not wanting to read it is different from the book being problematic. Cosby is not his characters. A writer giving voice to racism and homophobia on the page is not the same as endorsing it, and the whole architecture of this book is built around interrogating those exact things.
Side note: In my YouTube University studies, I ran across Cosby’s interview/appearance at the 2023 National Book Festival. He’s discussing All the Sinners Bleed (which got added to the TBR after this interview), but I think it’s such a great discussion. They get into Southern Noir vs. Southern Gothic and genre stuff around the 13-minute mark. A peek at how Cosby explains Southern Noir: “I think it’s just this idea of crime fiction that takes place in a place where you can’t get away from the people you’ve hurt.” This part of the discussion isn’t long; this was just my favorite video of the ones I watched.
Moral ambiguity is the most prominent “hallmark”/genre staple. Not to belabor the point, but Ike and Buddy Lee are not heroes/moral pillars. They are doing something arguably righteous but through methods that are brutal and outside any legal or ethical framework. Survival and revenge are driving them far more than justice.
Based on what one article said that the hallmarks of the genre are, I jotted some more thoughts on how this book fits in the genre:
Like I said, I love a revenge story. The Glory, chef’s kiss! She Started It, loved watching you end it, though. They Never Learn, but you made sure they learned in the end, sis. However, this story made me realize I enjoy revenge stories where we know who hurt us/who wronged us, and we have a plan to take them down. This was a lot of us hunting down Tangerine and trying to piece together what happened and hurting anyone who got in the way of us finding the truth so we can get revenge. And I am not a huge action/fight scene reader.
Also, while Buddy Lee and Ike are on their journey to be less problematic, I do not know how effective/how much I valued the “lesson” portions of the book.
The writing wasn’t my favorite at times. I wouldn’t say it is purple prose, but there were metaphors and language that felt misplaced/awkward. I would be interested to hear a bit of the audio, since people mentioned lines that read weirdly seemed natural/flowed well.
A pro for how this is written: the chapters are short, and if you like to try to read to the end of a chapter before stopping, you, like me, will love that.
My siblings and I love yelling “Aveeengeee meee!” as a callback to my forever Spiderman, Toby Maguire, specifically Green Goblin yelling this at Harry, over like small inconveniences/as a joke.
One critique I’ve seen a lot about Razorblade Tears is that Buddy Lee and Ike say the revenge is for their sons, but really it’s for themselves. And no, Derek and Isiah aren’t yelling out like Green Goblin demanding to be avenged. But I don’t think it has to be either/or. Why can’t they be doing it mostly for themselves but also for their sons in a way?
I can’t help but think about Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds, which is a novel-in-verse that takes place entirely in an elevator in the 60 seconds it takes to get from his floor down to the lobby, as he is set to go and get revenge for his brother's murder. Will, the 15-year-old protag, talks about “the rules,” especially the idea that you avenge whoever you lose. That book is very explicitly critiquing that mindset and the cycle it creates, but it also understands how real and ingrained those rules are. They’re not easy to just…opt out of.
Buddy Lee and Ike feel like they’re operating under those same rules, just in a different context and with even more baggage. They’re ex-cons who have lived violent lives even outside of prison, and revenge is something they understand. It’s almost like the only way they know how to do grief. So when they say this is for their sons, I don’t think that’s a lie. I think that’s genuinely how they’re framing it to themselves.
But at the same time, they’re not oblivious. They know their sons were better than them (kinder, more open, more capable of love in ways they struggled with). There are moments where it’s clear they understand their sons might not have wanted any of this, that all this violence in their names is kind of…misplaced. But some rules/ingrained responses are hard to avoid.
So yeah, part of this is for them. It’s about guilt, anger, needing somewhere to put all of that. But it’s also about love, in the only language they really know. And like Long Way Down, it ends up circling back to that bigger question: what does it actually mean to follow the “rules/community codes”? And what does it cost to honor or break them?
I do plan to read more Cosby. All the Sinners Bleed sounds up my alley, and I think, even if they are similar, the dive into the religious critiques will be intriguing.
PS. If you actually read all of this wow. Thanks.


jslynschapterverse commented...
27w
I could see Denzel! I kept changing from Delroy Lindo to Sterling K. Brown to Idris Elba and back again.
Razorblade Tears
S.A. Cosby
reads and feels like a movie. i’m at the edge of my seat!! it somehow reminds me of very early patterson (kiss the girls) with the pacing and i keep seeing denzel as ike 😳


jslynschapterverse commented...
27w
Lol thank you! I can definitely see this as more movie script than book, and I also go back and forth on whether I think the themes/lessons would actually help someone on their own journey of acceptance.
3.75 ⭐
This was okay/pretty good. I could see why it doesn’t sit well with some readers, as it is basically a gritty, crime, action movie with unlikeable characters in book form, and that requires a specific audience.
While I love a revenge story, this didn’t hit the notes that I enjoy in a revenge plot as much. Longer thoughts on what stood out/what I thought below. (Not my typical review style, but I took points I nixed adding to the forum and just dumped them here)
So, this is my first Southern noir. S.A. Cosby and Karin Slaugher have been on my TBR for way too long, and I know they are both recognized as powerhouses in the genre. (S.A. Cosby is literally referred to/known as the modern King of Southern Noir.) But outside of knowing this is a subgenre of crime fiction, I didn’t know much.
And before I started reading, I wanted to get a better sense of the genre, and in addition to a brief stint at YouTube and Wikipedia University, I found the following interesting articles: Southern Noir; The Rise of Rural Noir; Y’all Means All.
What stood out to me was that the genre often focuses on themes of poverty, racism, and violence, is known for its hard-boiled cynicism, and centers on morally ambiguous characters. There aren’t heroes, and the characters live in the gray (at best). I know this book got a lot of flak for its main characters being so problematic, and yeah, cringe. But that’s the point, and not just for the sake of being problematic/unlikeable and not as a reflection of Cosby.
Through the characters and the setting and their background, racism, homophobia, prejudices against ex-cons, etc., are being critiqued. Ike and Buddy Lee aren't meant to be people you root for; they're not heroes. They are products of the environments and cultures that shaped them, and the ugliness they carry is the whole point. Southern Noir doesn't clean that up or ask you to look away. It puts it front and center because that is how you're invited to reckon with it.
The discomfort is the critique. If these characters were likable and easy to sit with, the commentary would have no teeth. The genre has always used deeply flawed, often morally reprehensible people to hold a mirror up to systemic and cultural failures, and Cosby is doing exactly that here.
And look, it is completely valid to not want to spend your reading time with characters this difficult. That is a personal preference, not a moral stance. But not wanting to read it is different from the book being problematic. Cosby is not his characters. A writer giving voice to racism and homophobia on the page is not the same as endorsing it, and the whole architecture of this book is built around interrogating those exact things.
Side note: In my YouTube University studies, I ran across Cosby’s interview/appearance at the 2023 National Book Festival. He’s discussing All the Sinners Bleed (which got added to the TBR after this interview), but I think it’s such a great discussion. They get into Southern Noir vs. Southern Gothic and genre stuff around the 13-minute mark. A peek at how Cosby explains Southern Noir: “I think it’s just this idea of crime fiction that takes place in a place where you can’t get away from the people you’ve hurt.” This part of the discussion isn’t long; this was just my favorite video of the ones I watched.
Moral ambiguity is the most prominent “hallmark”/genre staple. Not to belabor the point, but Ike and Buddy Lee are not heroes/moral pillars. They are doing something arguably righteous but through methods that are brutal and outside any legal or ethical framework. Survival and revenge are driving them far more than justice.
Based on what one article said that the hallmarks of the genre are, I jotted some more thoughts on how this book fits in the genre:
Like I said, I love a revenge story. The Glory, chef’s kiss! She Started It, loved watching you end it, though. They Never Learn, but you made sure they learned in the end, sis. However, this story made me realize I enjoy revenge stories where we know who hurt us/who wronged us, and we have a plan to take them down. This was a lot of us hunting down Tangerine and trying to piece together what happened and hurting anyone who got in the way of us finding the truth so we can get revenge. And I am not a huge action/fight scene reader.
Also, while Buddy Lee and Ike are on their journey to be less problematic, I do not know how effective/how much I valued the “lesson” portions of the book.
The writing wasn’t my favorite at times. I wouldn’t say it is purple prose, but there were metaphors and language that felt misplaced/awkward. I would be interested to hear a bit of the audio, since people mentioned lines that read weirdly seemed natural/flowed well.
A pro for how this is written: the chapters are short, and if you like to try to read to the end of a chapter before stopping, you, like me, will love that.
My siblings and I love yelling “Aveeengeee meee!” as a callback to my forever Spiderman, Toby Maguire, specifically Green Goblin yelling this at Harry, over like small inconveniences/as a joke.
One critique I’ve seen a lot about Razorblade Tears is that Buddy Lee and Ike say the revenge is for their sons, but really it’s for themselves. And no, Derek and Isiah aren’t yelling out like Green Goblin demanding to be avenged. But I don’t think it has to be either/or. Why can’t they be doing it mostly for themselves but also for their sons in a way?
I can’t help but think about Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds, which is a novel-in-verse that takes place entirely in an elevator in the 60 seconds it takes to get from his floor down to the lobby, as he is set to go and get revenge for his brother's murder. Will, the 15-year-old protag, talks about “the rules,” especially the idea that you avenge whoever you lose. That book is very explicitly critiquing that mindset and the cycle it creates, but it also understands how real and ingrained those rules are. They’re not easy to just…opt out of.
Buddy Lee and Ike feel like they’re operating under those same rules, just in a different context and with even more baggage. They’re ex-cons who have lived violent lives even outside of prison, and revenge is something they understand. It’s almost like the only way they know how to do grief. So when they say this is for their sons, I don’t think that’s a lie. I think that’s genuinely how they’re framing it to themselves.
But at the same time, they’re not oblivious. They know their sons were better than them (kinder, more open, more capable of love in ways they struggled with). There are moments where it’s clear they understand their sons might not have wanted any of this, that all this violence in their names is kind of…misplaced. But some rules/ingrained responses are hard to avoid.
So yeah, part of this is for them. It’s about guilt, anger, needing somewhere to put all of that. But it’s also about love, in the only language they really know. And like Long Way Down, it ends up circling back to that bigger question: what does it actually mean to follow the “rules/community codes”? And what does it cost to honor or break them?
I do plan to read more Cosby. All the Sinners Bleed sounds up my alley, and I think, even if they are similar, the dive into the religious critiques will be intriguing.
PS. If you actually read all of this wow. Thanks.


jslynschapterverse commented...
23w
"You have his literal progeny in your arms" hits the nail on the head! This choice seemed so opposite of what Maya would seemingly do but maybe the stress/fear made her irrational 🤷🏽♀️

Razorblade Tears
S.A. Cosby
Maya done pissed me the fuck off. What do you mean you're looking after your granddaughter and you want to run right into an obvious trap. Talking about, "everything I have left of him," meanwhile you have his literal progeny in your arms. This whole time I found her relatively sensible, if written one-dimensionally, but this is so dumb. What did she even think would happen? Under the assumption that this fire has nothing to do with the gang that is after her man, is she planning to put the fire out? Run into it and hope not to die?


jslynschapterverse commented...
22w
Thank you! I think Cosby’s talk at the National Book Festival was so good; that's what made me want to read more from him!
3.75 ⭐
This was okay/pretty good. I could see why it doesn’t sit well with some readers, as it is basically a gritty, crime, action movie with unlikeable characters in book form, and that requires a specific audience.
While I love a revenge story, this didn’t hit the notes that I enjoy in a revenge plot as much. Longer thoughts on what stood out/what I thought below. (Not my typical review style, but I took points I nixed adding to the forum and just dumped them here)
So, this is my first Southern noir. S.A. Cosby and Karin Slaugher have been on my TBR for way too long, and I know they are both recognized as powerhouses in the genre. (S.A. Cosby is literally referred to/known as the modern King of Southern Noir.) But outside of knowing this is a subgenre of crime fiction, I didn’t know much.
And before I started reading, I wanted to get a better sense of the genre, and in addition to a brief stint at YouTube and Wikipedia University, I found the following interesting articles: Southern Noir; The Rise of Rural Noir; Y’all Means All.
What stood out to me was that the genre often focuses on themes of poverty, racism, and violence, is known for its hard-boiled cynicism, and centers on morally ambiguous characters. There aren’t heroes, and the characters live in the gray (at best). I know this book got a lot of flak for its main characters being so problematic, and yeah, cringe. But that’s the point, and not just for the sake of being problematic/unlikeable and not as a reflection of Cosby.
Through the characters and the setting and their background, racism, homophobia, prejudices against ex-cons, etc., are being critiqued. Ike and Buddy Lee aren't meant to be people you root for; they're not heroes. They are products of the environments and cultures that shaped them, and the ugliness they carry is the whole point. Southern Noir doesn't clean that up or ask you to look away. It puts it front and center because that is how you're invited to reckon with it.
The discomfort is the critique. If these characters were likable and easy to sit with, the commentary would have no teeth. The genre has always used deeply flawed, often morally reprehensible people to hold a mirror up to systemic and cultural failures, and Cosby is doing exactly that here.
And look, it is completely valid to not want to spend your reading time with characters this difficult. That is a personal preference, not a moral stance. But not wanting to read it is different from the book being problematic. Cosby is not his characters. A writer giving voice to racism and homophobia on the page is not the same as endorsing it, and the whole architecture of this book is built around interrogating those exact things.
Side note: In my YouTube University studies, I ran across Cosby’s interview/appearance at the 2023 National Book Festival. He’s discussing All the Sinners Bleed (which got added to the TBR after this interview), but I think it’s such a great discussion. They get into Southern Noir vs. Southern Gothic and genre stuff around the 13-minute mark. A peek at how Cosby explains Southern Noir: “I think it’s just this idea of crime fiction that takes place in a place where you can’t get away from the people you’ve hurt.” This part of the discussion isn’t long; this was just my favorite video of the ones I watched.
Moral ambiguity is the most prominent “hallmark”/genre staple. Not to belabor the point, but Ike and Buddy Lee are not heroes/moral pillars. They are doing something arguably righteous but through methods that are brutal and outside any legal or ethical framework. Survival and revenge are driving them far more than justice.
Based on what one article said that the hallmarks of the genre are, I jotted some more thoughts on how this book fits in the genre:
Like I said, I love a revenge story. The Glory, chef’s kiss! She Started It, loved watching you end it, though. They Never Learn, but you made sure they learned in the end, sis. However, this story made me realize I enjoy revenge stories where we know who hurt us/who wronged us, and we have a plan to take them down. This was a lot of us hunting down Tangerine and trying to piece together what happened and hurting anyone who got in the way of us finding the truth so we can get revenge. And I am not a huge action/fight scene reader.
Also, while Buddy Lee and Ike are on their journey to be less problematic, I do not know how effective/how much I valued the “lesson” portions of the book.
The writing wasn’t my favorite at times. I wouldn’t say it is purple prose, but there were metaphors and language that felt misplaced/awkward. I would be interested to hear a bit of the audio, since people mentioned lines that read weirdly seemed natural/flowed well.
A pro for how this is written: the chapters are short, and if you like to try to read to the end of a chapter before stopping, you, like me, will love that.
My siblings and I love yelling “Aveeengeee meee!” as a callback to my forever Spiderman, Toby Maguire, specifically Green Goblin yelling this at Harry, over like small inconveniences/as a joke.
One critique I’ve seen a lot about Razorblade Tears is that Buddy Lee and Ike say the revenge is for their sons, but really it’s for themselves. And no, Derek and Isiah aren’t yelling out like Green Goblin demanding to be avenged. But I don’t think it has to be either/or. Why can’t they be doing it mostly for themselves but also for their sons in a way?
I can’t help but think about Long Way Down by Jason Reynolds, which is a novel-in-verse that takes place entirely in an elevator in the 60 seconds it takes to get from his floor down to the lobby, as he is set to go and get revenge for his brother's murder. Will, the 15-year-old protag, talks about “the rules,” especially the idea that you avenge whoever you lose. That book is very explicitly critiquing that mindset and the cycle it creates, but it also understands how real and ingrained those rules are. They’re not easy to just…opt out of.
Buddy Lee and Ike feel like they’re operating under those same rules, just in a different context and with even more baggage. They’re ex-cons who have lived violent lives even outside of prison, and revenge is something they understand. It’s almost like the only way they know how to do grief. So when they say this is for their sons, I don’t think that’s a lie. I think that’s genuinely how they’re framing it to themselves.
But at the same time, they’re not oblivious. They know their sons were better than them (kinder, more open, more capable of love in ways they struggled with). There are moments where it’s clear they understand their sons might not have wanted any of this, that all this violence in their names is kind of…misplaced. But some rules/ingrained responses are hard to avoid.
So yeah, part of this is for them. It’s about guilt, anger, needing somewhere to put all of that. But it’s also about love, in the only language they really know. And like Long Way Down, it ends up circling back to that bigger question: what does it actually mean to follow the “rules/community codes”? And what does it cost to honor or break them?
I do plan to read more Cosby. All the Sinners Bleed sounds up my alley, and I think, even if they are similar, the dive into the religious critiques will be intriguing.
PS. If you actually read all of this wow. Thanks.



jslynschapterverse commented...
29w
It is heartbreaking they felt the need to have handled all the details themselves. I am wondering if being parents led them to estate plan as well. Everyone 18+ is told to (recommended to) have a will and then it's pushed even more with major life events (having a child, getting a house, etc.), which incolves getting your affairs in order/stating your wishes. But preparing and having everything outlined takes it to a new level.
I am also even more curious how Arianna ends up with Ike and Mya with both Derek and Isiah being such planners.