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Genuine question, how do you guys read the songs? 'Coz I'm reading it flatly and it feels so weird. How does it work for the authors in general, like do they release something with tune afterwards or leave it into our imagination?
I did find the song online since there's a movie but I'm really curious in general.
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Rating: 1.25 of 5 / Advanced Reader Copy received from NetGalley ⭐️
DNF @ 45%
lowkey i couldn’t even tell you. they have to get a treasure from somewhere but i truly have no grasp of why this was a plot point :/
it seems like this book wanted to subvert the typical tropes, as this is a fairytale retelling, and while i 1) am neutral to fairy tales 2) don’t care about retellings and 3) am no longer in the YA demographic, i know i’m 100% not the audience for this book but i can still appreciate a good book if it’s good
that being said, pham relied too heavily on these tropes existing in this fantasy world and the characters being self-aware that they fit these exact tropes—i don’t know if pham intended to break the fourth wall on this or if it just came to be a theme within the chapters
Amelia: Even in fairy tales, princesses merely existed in stories that others wanted to tell.
Corin: […] this is how fairy tales were supposed to end.
i’m sure if i made it to the end, the tropes would be somewhat subverted but how they get there is confusing in tone
also the way i cannot get a grip on any solid description—there’s no real direction, no physical location to hold on to. i get that the fluidity of movement in the dream realm is supposed to represent this fairytale fantasy but i couldn’t get my foothold to sink deep enough to understandably consume what in the world was even happening and why the characters were expressing these emotions. i would say the book lacked spatial awareness but i can’t even tell if that’s what i mean in regards to how nondescript the “world building” is with a few purple proses to decorate the edges so it doesn’t seem like anything is lacking.
even while i describe certain parts as nondescript, i still feel like every other second, the writing brought something up to make sure i knew what Big Feelings were happening in the moment, even if we don’t have to reach that conclusion yet if that makes sense? it was like i’m driving down a long stretch of road and every 2 miles there’s a sign that says “gas station to your left” except there’s no left? the road is straight and the sign keeps appearing on the road in the next 2 miles “gas station to your left” BABY THERE IS NO LEFT?? STOP THREATENING ME !!
aside from the world building being all over the place and not concrete enough, the characters were not that interesting to me from the beginning. they are immediately depressed and unshakeable when we meet them so it seemed to drag during their separate chapters before they met up with each other
the titular character and her love interest have so little chemistry, if one of them became a pet, neither of them would care to adopt 😭 like it’s sad brah lmfao i came for the sapphic romance but all i got was a depression mug
and i love a good story that involves very broken, imperfect, and suffering characters, but i don’t feel like there was an opportunity to really dive into their mental health. and from what i’ve read from spoiler reviews, it seems it doesn’t really have good progress on that front in the end anyway…
malicine had a few good moments with their pov chapters and then they seemed to disappear into the background, forgotten and unrelated to the plot until called upon by either main characters. they could’ve been the cuntiest if they had an ounce of description given to them, but even their appearance in the story didn’t move me
especially corin’s sister elly who felt very one-dimensional—it seemed she was just there to give corin a reason to feel any type of emotion, carefree and simple-minded because of course her big sister has to handle all of the emotional responsibility of the world’s cruelty right
all in all, i really wanted to like this book. i enjoy some of pham’s content though i am not a regular patron of it on social media or youtube, but i was excited for her to be telling a story of her own bc i think she’s funny and cool
i will say i would still tune in for pham’s second or third book. i think there is potential there, and if she can fine tune her skills then she could tell a great story, hopefully one that doesn’t rely on an existing story to carry the weight of it
the one thing i regret was not reading this sooner bc now i have no choice but to DNF during AAPI month or pride month and i am deeply sorry for that i have failed both my communities 😔
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Unfortunately, I should have listened to my intuition and not picked this book up. When Cindy, whose videos I am quite fond of, first announced her book, I decided to not give it a try, because nothing about the premise or the book's selling points sounded like my thing. Sleeping Beauty is my favorite Disney classic, but that's about it; I am not a fan of YA fantasy or retellings, nor meandering vibe-over-plot slow-paced stories. Still, curiosity (and the gorgeous cover) got the better of me, and I ended up reading The Secret World of Briar Rose... and not liking it much.
I think this is what happens when an author wants to tell an allegory rather than a story. They become so stubbornly focused on the Metaphor and the Symbolism and the Second Level of Interpretation, so acutely worried about stuffing enough raw material for the SparkNotes flashcards to be exhaustive, that they forget to write a novel. I remember reading the following on tumblr, half frustrated shitpost and half writing advice: "the problem with a lot of horror books nowadays is that authors want to write a book where the horror stands for something. the haunted house is always generational trauma or mental illness or some shit. and they forget to write a horror book with horror in it." This is exactly my gripe with this book. The Secret World of Briar Rose is very explicitly an allegory for depression... which also means it fails in all the basic principles that make a novel.
The characters are not characters. They are representations, like fables destined for children. In particular, Corin is the angry, combative side of depression, whereas Amelia is the passive and avoidant aspect of it. That makes every single character in this book extremely flat and one-dimensional, because they are not people, they are mouthpieces for the author to speak her truths and deliver her message. Corin and Elly's whole storyline in particular is really uninteresting compared to Amelia's and I think the book would have been much stronger if they were cut entirely, and the action focused solely on Amelia's story. The closest thing we have to an actual person is Malicine (why they are named like an antibiotic I do not know), whose backstory chapters and father storyline are also entirely superfluous. The romance is also strangely shoehorned in at the very end of the book, with no indication that the characters ever got close or had anything in common other than traumabonding? Neither of them ever mentions anything not pertaining to trauma or misery in the whole book! I thought the relationship between Amelia and Malicine was waaay more compelling than any other.
The plot is not a plot. There is no sense of progression in the book, nor actual stakes. It's all a convoluted mess of flowery prose that makes it very hard to follow the actual events unfolding. There's a vague plot of some treasure needing to be retrieved, but it very quickly takes the backseat in favor of labyrinthine ruminations that lead nowhere, and unending descriptions of the dream world. The writing in itself had its very nice moments, and shines in a few beautiful lines, but there were also a lot of grammatical mistakes and spelling errors (which I hope will be fixed in the final version), and paragraphs were very repetitive in structure with little sentence length/architecture variation, which did not help the feeling of redundancy. More than that, it's the general opacity of the prose that makes it hard to follow what's going on, and I found myself wondering what the hell I was reading quite a few times. Characters disappear and appear randomly, locations are not very clear... I understand the aim is to create a hazy, dream-like atmosphere, but it should not hinder reading comprehension unless you are an extremely talented writer and can land back on your feet. Besides, since the majority of the story is set in the dream world, which operates under confusing dream magic, nothing is important until the book tells you it is. There's a main character that (I think?) dies at around 60% and I was confused as to why it was such a big deal cause we'd been having horrible, nightmarish visions this whole time, so clearly they weren't really dead? And then they were? But then they were... willed back to life, and came back? And then died again? At which point I was like, "why should I care that they're dying again? They're already dead and you can just make stuff up from your subconscious in this world!! Just... imagine theyre alright? You JUST did that." All in all it was very confusing and I'm not sure at which point in the story they died, if they were dead all along or not... it was so boring and confusing at times that I 100% would've DNFed if I wasn't a completionist.
Lastly, the setting is not a setting. I already mentioned the problems with the dream world and its lack of consistent rules (injuries don't really matter but if you die there you die in the real world? How does that work?); but as many other reviews have pointed out, the real world is the worst offender. What are Gyldan and Zilar like? What time period is this even? The flashbacks sound like medieval fantasy, but 100 years of anarchy and crisis later we've got planes and bulldozers, but somehow both worlds have plastic AND faeries? What is this insurrection Corin keeps talking about, who are we fighting against? How can there be no government in Gyldan for 100 years, if Zilar has invaded them how have they not seized full power yet? What's society like under this war and absent regime, who are the haves and have-nots? How could the situation get so bad, couldn't they have found another ruler after Amelia fell asleep (sort of implied to be because Gyldan can only prosper if the royal family is in charge because of their golden blood or whatever, but that's disproven by the epilogue)? And how has NO ONE, in 100 years of searching, found the castle, especially in tunnels actively used by both military and guerrilla/resistance, but all of a sudden not one but two girls stumble upon it randomly? There are so many questions that the book does not answer, and it might not bother some people who are only here for vibes, but I had such a hard time picturing anything about this world and its inhabitants that it left me utterly disengaged.
The epilogue, by the way, is criminal. I sort of understand what she was going for with that ending, but how can we still think that's a satisfying conclusion in the big 2026? As if it doesn't render everything we've been suffering through for the last 300 pages null and void?
Ultimately, I'm disappointed. I fully expected not to be a fan of The Secret World of Briar Rose as i'm not the target audience, but I at least hoped Cindy would be a great writer after basing her whole platform on critiquing ridiculous books. But she is guilty of some of the same errors she so vehemently clowned in other authors, and that's disappointing. I'm also very surprised her team did not know whether to market this book as YA or adult and thought it could fit both niches, as I personally thought the characters and writing read tremendously juvenile, YA or perhaps even middle grade. There are really good ideas and concepts in this book: I love the idea of Sleeping Beauty as a metaphor for depression and escapism; Cindy clearly has an amazing imagination, and my favorite moments were the very Lewis Carroll-esque introduction of the cottage and talking animals; unfortunately this book's whimsical ideas get bogged down by its great share of issues.
Thank you to NetGalley for providing the ARC and giving me the opportunity to review the book honestly.
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So far I understand why some people have said the writing is juvenile (it does read like middle grade to YA), but overly flowery? Maybe my tolerance for purple prose is way too high, but it's actually a tad too bare bones for my taste, lol
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