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TL;DR - How do you guys feel about authors writing about social issues that do not affect them, but affect oppressed groups they do not belong to?
Personally, I don't think there's an issue with someone writing a character that doesn't reflect perfectly the author's own identity or personal experiences. That's what writing, and especially writing fiction, is. But my hackles will always rise when people write from a position of privilege on something that specifically does not/cannot affect them but affects a minority/oppressed group. When the author doesn't/can't have a personal understanding of this experience but they seek to profit from that experience and that story nonetheless.
The reason I'm thinking about this right now is I have a couple of Nat Cassidy books on my TBR, and I'm gonna be real, I thought this was a female writer. It's quite an ambiguous name and I was not previously familiar with his work. Now I know it's a cis man writing about some really thorny female-specific/woman-specific experiences* (and not just tangentially - from what I understand, these experiences form the heart, the engine of these narratives) from the perspective of female characters... yeah I'm side eyeing this a bit.
To be clear, I'm not saying this is outright wrong or somehow immoral or that stories should never be told unless they're told by someone who has directly experienced them or been impacted by the themes they deal with. I think that's a little silly.
But I do think if we are intending to write marginalised experiences we need to ask, why am I telling this story and why do I think my voice was the necessary one to do so? Why is my perspective the one that should be published? Am I benefitting from systemic harms done to others and leveraging my position of privilege to amplify my own voice rather than theirs?
Specific to my example, I have read good things about Cassidy's work, but I feel like maybe there are more appropriate voices to tell these stories that I should be supporting instead. I don't know. What are your thoughts?
[potential spoiler warning for Cassidy's novels below, but not really because I haven't read them]
*From what I have been told, Cassidy has written novels about menopause, medical gaslighting, motherhood and traumatic labour, and the horrific ways in which female people and female bodies suffer these experiences under patriarchal conditions.
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TL;DR - How do you guys feel about authors writing about social issues that do not affect them, but affect oppressed groups they do not belong to?
Personally, I don't think there's an issue with someone writing a character that doesn't reflect perfectly the author's own identity or personal experiences. That's what writing, and especially writing fiction, is. But my hackles will always rise when people write from a position of privilege on something that specifically does not/cannot affect them but affects a minority/oppressed group. When the author doesn't/can't have a personal understanding of this experience but they seek to profit from that experience and that story nonetheless.
The reason I'm thinking about this right now is I have a couple of Nat Cassidy books on my TBR, and I'm gonna be real, I thought this was a female writer. It's quite an ambiguous name and I was not previously familiar with his work. Now I know it's a cis man writing about some really thorny female-specific/woman-specific experiences* (and not just tangentially - from what I understand, these experiences form the heart, the engine of these narratives) from the perspective of female characters... yeah I'm side eyeing this a bit.
To be clear, I'm not saying this is outright wrong or somehow immoral or that stories should never be told unless they're told by someone who has directly experienced them or been impacted by the themes they deal with. I think that's a little silly.
But I do think if we are intending to write marginalised experiences we need to ask, why am I telling this story and why do I think my voice was the necessary one to do so? Why is my perspective the one that should be published? Am I benefitting from systemic harms done to others and leveraging my position of privilege to amplify my own voice rather than theirs?
Specific to my example, I have read good things about Cassidy's work, but I feel like maybe there are more appropriate voices to tell these stories that I should be supporting instead. I don't know. What are your thoughts?
[potential spoiler warning for Cassidy's novels below, but not really because I haven't read them]
*From what I have been told, Cassidy has written novels about menopause, medical gaslighting, motherhood and traumatic labour, and the horrific ways in which female people and female bodies suffer these experiences under patriarchal conditions.
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Honestly, I'm just thankful it was short.
This reads like the kind of think I'd write on my first year undergrad creative writing module when I thought being excessively verbose and circumlocutory made me seem impressive. I like fiction that doesn't spoon-feed the reader all the answers or guide us by hand to the intended meaning. I like being asked to interpret, to excavate understanding from complex narratives and challenging imagery. I am less thrilled with fiction that obscures its own plot under layers of abstraction and purple prose.
I am giving this 3 stars, rounded up from 2.5 because I did really enjoy most of the characters and there is something substantial in the fable we've been presented with through this sesquipedalian thicket. I also liked the dreamlike, hallucinatory nature of this dark little story and I can imagine the impact it might of had if the language was sharper and more purposeful.
Bit of a disappointment. Pick it up if you're just here for the twisted fairy tale vibes of it all.
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Johanna van Veen is quickly becoming an auto-buy author for me. What a generational talent in this genre. Never stop writing, and never stop writing about bog bodies. I am obsessed.
My Darling Dreadful Thing is exquisite. It is (G/g)othic, it is claustrophobic, it is dirty and grimy and festering and just extremely well done at every possible avenue. These characters are so lovingly crafted, so well-voiced, so endearing and enduring. The palimpsest narrative structure with its interstitial/proleptic fragments, the unreliable narrator, the ambiguity and ambivalence and refusal to acquiesce to the reader's desire to tidily stratify what we just read into one category or another. This book is a sprawling, soupy swamp teeming with bodies, with history, with emotion. And as I sank further into its murky waters, I couple feel parts of myself being digested too.
A gorgeous, loving feast all round.
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