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Alright here we go…first time reading Iliad…wonder if it’s gonna be spicy 🫦
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Alright here we go…first time reading Iliad…wonder if it’s gonna be spicy 🫦
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The Iliad
Homer Homer
marco.evenstar commented on a post from the Pagebound Club forum
Hi, I’m about to dip my toes into Homer and I in general plan to read more classic literature in 2026, and I was struggling to decide which version of the Iliad I should start with. I’m a newbie but I’m not intimidated by complicated translations, however if there is something more accessible for first timers and is still considered a quality translation I’d prefer to go with that. I’ve heard Fagles is quite easy to use as a starting point and most pros do not recommend Wilson’s translations, but I’m just on the fence.
If anyone has any recommendations or tips for getting into epic poetry and other works of Ancient Greece (is there something I should read before getting into Iliad/Odyssey ?), please feel free to share your thoughts ! Thank you 💫
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Hi, I’m about to dip my toes into Homer and I in general plan to read more classic literature in 2026, and I was struggling to decide which version of the Iliad I should start with. I’m a newbie but I’m not intimidated by complicated translations, however if there is something more accessible for first timers and is still considered a quality translation I’d prefer to go with that. I’ve heard Fagles is quite easy to use as a starting point and most pros do not recommend Wilson’s translations, but I’m just on the fence.
If anyone has any recommendations or tips for getting into epic poetry and other works of Ancient Greece (is there something I should read before getting into Iliad/Odyssey ?), please feel free to share your thoughts ! Thank you 💫
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If only poor Bram knew when writing this article that his already erotically charged portrayal of the undead would evolve into the lascivious smut produced now he’d be horrified
marco.evenstar commented on tony_w_a_b's review of The Picture of Dorian Gray
i recently (half) watched The Substance and it made me think of this. ps: i didn't like the movie >:(
marco.evenstar finished reading and wrote a review...
This is one of those novels that will stay with me for a long time. I know a couple of re-reads will be required for me to fully appreciate every aspect of this story. I’m a fan of Gothic horror and this was an iconic entry in the genre. The writing in this is so visual and poetic, a perfect representative of the aestheticist movement of the late 19-th century Wilde was a major part of.
The story of Dorian Gray and his descent into corruption, decay and sin is very layered. This book tackles social norms and expectations and the influence of interpersonal relationships. Wilde expertly dissects and critiques the moral hypocrisy and self-righteousness of the Victorian era aristocracy and nowhere is this shown more clearly than through the character of Lord Henry Wotton. Perhaps the most interesting person in the story, he is a staunch hedonist, one who has no care for the consequences of his actions yet never seems to really live out any of his own convictions, though he instills them so deeply in Dorian that he essentially corrupts and ruins him through his influence.
The biggest taboo of the time of its publication is clearly the subtle yet very present homoeroticism reflected in Basil’s connection to Dorian and the various relationships between the male characters in the book. Even the concept of a painting reflecting Dorian’s “most terrible secret” is an allusion of hiding one’s sexuality from the world and carrying the burden of that shame. It is an incredible and iconic piece of queer classic literature, one that was so revolutionary and scandalous at the time it had landed the author (a gay man himself) in jail.
There are themes of hereditary doom and the carrying of a past familial burden in this one as with most Gothic novels of the 19-th century and it is particularly interesting to consider this when discussing the concept of Dorian’s existential crisis towards the end of the story. Had he cursed himself by wishing the painting to perserve his soul, leaving him a beautiful but shallow creature or had he been predisposed to this cruel fate as most of his ancestors were ?
There is so much more I can say about this book and even more that I’m sure to find on a re-read, but I think this story boils down to the idea that endless hedonism and the pursuit of youth and beauty as the only things that matter in life can lead one down a very dark path. It is a concept that we see in all forms of media time and time again, but it remains a relevant topic to this day (I just thought of The Substance, and how Elizabeth/Sue’s story is quite similar to Dorian’s own dillemma. The Faustian sacrifice of one’s very soul for eternal beauty and youth, but ultimately not being able to free yourself through it).
Appreciated the Shakespeare references as well.
Will definitely enjoy coming back to this.
marco.evenstar commented on a post from the Pagebound Club forum
Or you could even describe yourself as an ideal book!
I would be Southern Gothic, but with Sci Fi elements like aliens or sentient plants. 💩 has to get real weird. 😂 Hellions (Short Stories) by Julia Elliot is probably my personality in a book.
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Oh hunniii this is some primetime ancient yaoi angst being served on a platter !
*on a serious note, I do have the footnotes from the Penguin classics edition and it’s so fascinating how despite the revisions and editing of the officically published 1891 edition, there is still a strong homoerotic connotation to Basil’s feelings for Dorian and the nature of their relationship prior to the start of the story
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Oh hunniii this is some primetime ancient yaoi angst being served on a platter !
*on a serious note, I do have the footnotes from the Penguin classics edition and it’s so fascinating how despite the revisions and editing of the officically published 1891 edition, there is still a strong homoerotic connotation to Basil’s feelings for Dorian and the nature of their relationship prior to the start of the story