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Post from the Before We Were Trans: A New History of Gender forum
If queer attraction and queer sex had gendered meanings in particular historical periods and cultures, I can't — no one should — just ignore that because it doesn't sit comfortably alongside the ideals I personally hold today.
I really like the point Heyman makes here in reinforcing that just because a part of history in the past was something we now may disagree with and find uncomfortable to look back upon, it doesn’t mean it’s not important to talk about and that still belongs in queer history.
In this chapter, Heyman directs our attention to how sexuality was once inevitably entangled with gender and how people’s sexual behaviors would depict their genders. Because desire for men was seen as a female characteristic, AMAB people that were attracted to men were seen, in a way, as female. People's roles in society, roles that were gendered, and even their behaviors during sexual acts would also have a big impact in this aspect.
And while today we make this separation of gender being one thing and sexuality another, and that don't necessarily have to be intertwined, it's still important to understand that this was once the case and how it has evolved since. Not only that, but the fact that this also goes beyond trans history and is also important and a part of queer history as a whole.
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OK, I'm a liiittle bit annoyed with Heyam's handling of the German language, continously misspelling German words that contain Umlaute, but now I need to jump in: While I get why in chapter 4, they don't want to use the words "gay" or "homosexual" in reference to Ulrichs' model, translating the "Schwules Museum" to "Queer Museum" is simply wrong. "Schwul" means "gay", as in homosexual men; it is very specific. And if you look at the museum's website, it is explained there that it was founded in the 1980s to display the history of gay men. Which is why I never went there. Other subgroups of the queer community, even lesbians, are too often overlooked and ignored in favour of homosexual men; I'm not interested in a museum all about them, thank you. Even though they today probably offer a wider variety of info, I think it's important to recognise the museum is still called "Schwules", and not renamed something more inclusive.
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