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Since this book is coming up in the read-along and I can already foresee posts asking questions or being generally bewildered about the protagonist in this book, I'm making this post to try and give a no plot spoiler quickie post both linking to other posts in the forum to highlight them from the jump and a couple external resources. (I will likely edit this in the near-future before the read-along starts for grammar/formatting or if I realize I missed a TW for the book itself)
Nothing further than the literal summary on Pagebound (which gives a straight up spoiler) but there will be things here that will make a run no longer truly blind. If you're someone who values a blind reading experience, with a high tolerance for needing to wait before making judgement calls, I would say ignore this post!
formatting loosely based on the audio from the 'road trip' commandments gag on Family Guy
TW for suicide for resources in "Commandment Number 1: Camus is... Camus?" as Camus uses the term in his philosophy.
Commandment zero: Trigger Warnings for the Book : Domestic Violence, Animal Abuse, Sexual violence (assault mention), Violence (including gun violence and stabbing), Death/Grief (Loss of a Parent; Mother), Racism.
Commandment Number 1: Camus is... Camus? Camus is a pied noir (meaning person of French descent from one of multiple waves of French settlement) in Algeria. Unfortunately, any bio I would link to has spoilers for this book because scholars have no chill (e.g., his bio in the Nobel website which I use for the info here!) He was an active participant in the resistance against the Nazis in France (after the poor guy was in France JUST in time for it to be invaded) around when this book is coming together. This novel is also set in Algeria (primarily in the city of Algiers, to be more precise); at the time of writing, Algeria was still a 'part' of France✨ and active colonial project where the legal system was prejudiced against those who lived there for centuries prior (Arabs and Berbers). Historically, Algiers was a hotspot for Algerian Independence activities; Camus' position was anti-independence but he was also opposed to the denial of rights and autonomy to Arabs in particular (he wanted citizenship extended alongside efforts to both eliminate economic disparity and repressive measures employed by the French). Although Camus' philosophy would coalesce in later work, we see parts of it in this novel especially in terms of the absurd. The video linked here gives a small overview of the general beats of his absurdism; this video features more animation to do a similar overview. For those who prefer writing, or want a more detailed breakdown than the general overviews, @Noctalli has a detailed breakdown of the recognition-revolt stages in Camus’ philosophy without spoilers for this book that is also linked here!
Commandment Number 2: There's nothing I can do about the sun. This is more a hint than anything. If you find yourself thinking that it's weird how the descriptions are constantly going back to his physical experiences (temperature, brightness, etc) without much sense of his emotions beyond like/dislike... it's notable but it's not just plain weird. It's something to keep an eye on and you'll likely see posts along the way reading into it that you can add onto!
Commandment Number 3: There are no more Maman. (They're all gone) If you're reading in French, don't worry about this note. If you're reading in English you should see the post about translations by @moski in terms of the first line; the comments in the linked post expand even further than the resources they list! In the original French, the novel is written largely in the compound past (passé composé) which is used for actions that have a definite start/end in the past tense (and this is distinct from the tendency in use the literary register, passé simple, in older French writing); in English this corresponds, ironically, to the simple past rather than compound past (i.e., it's the equivalent of saying "I did" instead of "I have done" despite the meaning being more similar to the latter). For the contemporary reader, this would be a bit more unexpected than it would for a reader in the present day. Additionally, it is not as jarring in French as the translated versions tend to read (in my limited experience) since it carries more of a conversational/everyday sense than the much more formal passé simple while some English translations seem to make the writing less conversational✨✨.
Commandment Number 4: When we pass a weird reaction to something normal, it's weird on purpose. The wording can and will be oddly detached (and there is a post discussing it further along in this forum at 15% for poking around at that by @CatherineJ). If you can, be on the look-out for places where he seems most (and least) connected to what he's talking about. Related to Commandment 3, there are places where the writing will seem almost too neutral/casual about certain subjects (with differences depending on your edition/translation). Additionally, if you're someone who does not like characters that are generally asocial or anti-social, this book may not be to your taste whatsoever.
✨I say 'part' of France because that is what France had considered it to be and administered it as such (distinct from their other colonies). It cannot be understated that the French colonization of Algeria was particularly brutal and that it remains a hot button issue to this day. Its independence is literally the trigger/catalyst for the creation of the French Fifth Republic and the collapse of the Fourth Republic; to emphasize how important this is the other ways that a Republic in France has collapsed are Empires being declared and the Nazi invasion, they don't just do that. When Macron apologized for the colonization as a "crime contre l'humanité" (crime against humanity) it was controversial; when Algeria in 2025 criminalized the colonization, France described it as a hostile gesture. ✨✨PS is also known as passé historique (historical past) since it has shifted from being the default narrative tense to an archaic one! When I read my first novel which consistently used passé simple my teenage self was rather disgusted with it as the primary mode because it read very pretentious. This shift was actively occurring during Camus' generation (where it had already shifted to being a purely written tense in the latter half of the 19th century, it became increasingly unused).
EDIT / Patch Notes 19/06/26 was on my computer where the post is less hostile to being edited than on my phone to make the following adjustments: ❤️wording in commandment #4 (and an according change to #3 to better organize the difference between the two) to be more precise about the shift from PS to PC. In my attempt to avoid losing the forest for the trees, my edits reducing a tangent to a draft of this post overemphasize the prevalence of PS in the mid-twentieth century (thank you to @StJust for being active in this thread and responding to @Polyglottery in the comment linked here which had me check back in on how that commandment worked out in the final product after I was back online more actively today; I've also pinned the thread below since it offers more details for those who are curious!) ❤️adding the link to @Noctalli's post
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Since this book is coming up in the read-along and I can already foresee posts asking questions or being generally bewildered about the protagonist in this book, I'm making this post to try and give a no plot spoiler quickie post both linking to other posts in the forum to highlight them from the jump and a couple external resources. (I will likely edit this in the near-future before the read-along starts for grammar/formatting or if I realize I missed a TW for the book itself)
Nothing further than the literal summary on Pagebound (which gives a straight up spoiler) but there will be things here that will make a run no longer truly blind. If you're someone who values a blind reading experience, with a high tolerance for needing to wait before making judgement calls, I would say ignore this post!
formatting loosely based on the audio from the 'road trip' commandments gag on Family Guy
TW for suicide for resources in "Commandment Number 1: Camus is... Camus?" as Camus uses the term in his philosophy.
Commandment zero: Trigger Warnings for the Book : Domestic Violence, Animal Abuse, Sexual violence (assault mention), Violence (including gun violence and stabbing), Death/Grief (Loss of a Parent; Mother), Racism.
Commandment Number 1: Camus is... Camus? Camus is a pied noir (meaning person of French descent from one of multiple waves of French settlement) in Algeria. Unfortunately, any bio I would link to has spoilers for this book because scholars have no chill (e.g., his bio in the Nobel website which I use for the info here!) He was an active participant in the resistance against the Nazis in France (after the poor guy was in France JUST in time for it to be invaded) around when this book is coming together. This novel is also set in Algeria (primarily in the city of Algiers, to be more precise); at the time of writing, Algeria was still a 'part' of France✨ and active colonial project where the legal system was prejudiced against those who lived there for centuries prior (Arabs and Berbers). Historically, Algiers was a hotspot for Algerian Independence activities; Camus' position was anti-independence but he was also opposed to the denial of rights and autonomy to Arabs in particular (he wanted citizenship extended alongside efforts to both eliminate economic disparity and repressive measures employed by the French). Although Camus' philosophy would coalesce in later work, we see parts of it in this novel especially in terms of the absurd. The video linked here gives a small overview of the general beats of his absurdism; this video features more animation to do a similar overview. For those who prefer writing, or want a more detailed breakdown than the general overviews, @Noctalli has a detailed breakdown of the recognition-revolt stages in Camus’ philosophy without spoilers for this book that is also linked here!
Commandment Number 2: There's nothing I can do about the sun. This is more a hint than anything. If you find yourself thinking that it's weird how the descriptions are constantly going back to his physical experiences (temperature, brightness, etc) without much sense of his emotions beyond like/dislike... it's notable but it's not just plain weird. It's something to keep an eye on and you'll likely see posts along the way reading into it that you can add onto!
Commandment Number 3: There are no more Maman. (They're all gone) If you're reading in French, don't worry about this note. If you're reading in English you should see the post about translations by @moski in terms of the first line; the comments in the linked post expand even further than the resources they list! In the original French, the novel is written largely in the compound past (passé composé) which is used for actions that have a definite start/end in the past tense (and this is distinct from the tendency in use the literary register, passé simple, in older French writing); in English this corresponds, ironically, to the simple past rather than compound past (i.e., it's the equivalent of saying "I did" instead of "I have done" despite the meaning being more similar to the latter). For the contemporary reader, this would be a bit more unexpected than it would for a reader in the present day. Additionally, it is not as jarring in French as the translated versions tend to read (in my limited experience) since it carries more of a conversational/everyday sense than the much more formal passé simple while some English translations seem to make the writing less conversational✨✨.
Commandment Number 4: When we pass a weird reaction to something normal, it's weird on purpose. The wording can and will be oddly detached (and there is a post discussing it further along in this forum at 15% for poking around at that by @CatherineJ). If you can, be on the look-out for places where he seems most (and least) connected to what he's talking about. Related to Commandment 3, there are places where the writing will seem almost too neutral/casual about certain subjects (with differences depending on your edition/translation). Additionally, if you're someone who does not like characters that are generally asocial or anti-social, this book may not be to your taste whatsoever.
✨I say 'part' of France because that is what France had considered it to be and administered it as such (distinct from their other colonies). It cannot be understated that the French colonization of Algeria was particularly brutal and that it remains a hot button issue to this day. Its independence is literally the trigger/catalyst for the creation of the French Fifth Republic and the collapse of the Fourth Republic; to emphasize how important this is the other ways that a Republic in France has collapsed are Empires being declared and the Nazi invasion, they don't just do that. When Macron apologized for the colonization as a "crime contre l'humanité" (crime against humanity) it was controversial; when Algeria in 2025 criminalized the colonization, France described it as a hostile gesture. ✨✨PS is also known as passé historique (historical past) since it has shifted from being the default narrative tense to an archaic one! When I read my first novel which consistently used passé simple my teenage self was rather disgusted with it as the primary mode because it read very pretentious. This shift was actively occurring during Camus' generation (where it had already shifted to being a purely written tense in the latter half of the 19th century, it became increasingly unused).
EDIT / Patch Notes 19/06/26 was on my computer where the post is less hostile to being edited than on my phone to make the following adjustments: ❤️wording in commandment #4 (and an according change to #3 to better organize the difference between the two) to be more precise about the shift from PS to PC. In my attempt to avoid losing the forest for the trees, my edits reducing a tangent to a draft of this post overemphasize the prevalence of PS in the mid-twentieth century (thank you to @StJust for being active in this thread and responding to @Polyglottery in the comment linked here which had me check back in on how that commandment worked out in the final product after I was back online more actively today; I've also pinned the thread below since it offers more details for those who are curious!) ❤️adding the link to @Noctalli's post
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I made a previous post about the end of Part 2 Chapter 2 being omitted from the Global Publishers e-book edition of the Stuart Gilbert translation - and here I am with another BIG omission! A full 8 pages is missing from the end of Part 2 Chapter 4.
The English edition ends with the dialogue "And I look to you for a verdict accordingly." That is in the middle of a paragraph, and this section goes on much longer - and most importantly, includes a Meursault hearing an extremely pivotal moment!! My mind is honestly blown by this omission. It's missing a whole chunk of what's going through Meursault's mind and a bunch of the action.
I had my doubts as to whether the last omission was political in nature (see the post for that section), but I'm pretty sure this one has to be. This section deals closely with the criminal justice system in France/Algeria at the time, and the government officials don't look great. It seems like that would be the only reason for this omission, which truly has one of the main moments of the book at the end IMO.
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I read 8! it might not seem like a lot but i'm quite proud because 2 of them are over the 700 hundred pages witch is something that i didn't managed to do since i was about 14 probably, and the book i'm currently reading is also like 700 pages why do i do that to myself?.
The good thing is that i liked almost every book i read so far, for the second half of the year i would like to read more of my physical tbr and finish some of the books i have paused.
So far my favs have been the two bricks, Royal Assasin and Assasin's Quest by Robin hobb (and i'm loving East of eden witch im reading right now ) and my least favourite would be Lapvona (i'm sorry guys)
You're free to tell me about your half year wrap up if you want to! i would love to hear it from you!!
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Hi, so I've been trying to get into actually analysing books and picking up on underlying themes, symbolism, and deeper meanings instead of just reading for the plot.
Sometimes the themes are pretty obvious, but a lot of the times I struggle to collect my thoughts and put them into words in a way that feels accurate to the book, or even insightful enough. Usually, I just read a book, enjoy the vibes, know what happened, and know what I loved about it. That kind of thing. But I want to actually understand a book on a deeper level, if that makes sense.
I tried annotating, but I genuinely had no idea what I was supposed to be doing, and I mostly ended up writing wattpad-level comments in the margins lmao.
Does anyone have any tips or methods or resources that helped them learn how to analyse books more deeply and like intentionally?
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Fellow readers. I wanted to know if there’s a convenient method to collect information and quotes from a book. I annotate books but then I don’t have a well organised system where I can keep all the information or beautiful lines as I want. I used to write them down but it’s very time consuming and even though I still do that sometimes but I can’t seem to maintain this. So I was hoping y’all can give me tips and suggestions. I mostly read physical books and pdfs(I also read random articles from basically anywhere). Thankyou in advance
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