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The Sluts
Dennis Cooper
Set largely on the pages of a website where gay male escorts are reviewed by their clients, and told through the postings, emails, and conversations of several dozen unreliable narrators, The Sluts chronicles the evolution of one young escort's date with a satisfied client into a metafiction of pornography, lies, half-truths, and myth. Explicit, shocking, comical, and displaying the author's signature flair for blending structural complexity with direct, stylish, accessible language, The Sluts is Cooper's most transgressive novel since Frisk, and one of his most innovative works of fiction to date.

peregrine commented...
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The other comments have alr mentioned more practical reasons, so my argument is more theoretical. I think any healthy community needs to have a mechanism in place that can subtly, but concisely provide info on what is acceptable behavior or not. Shame is an essential part of building any sustainable social structure, and downvotes are a way to do that without any permanent damage to someone's reputation, which is frankly great practice for being able to speak your mind IRL. Personally, I think that the anxiety that comes with this system is a good thing. If someone were to post something, they do so with greater care and conviction.
I think there are many users who put too much onus on what downvotes can do. I think these same users will not be helped with a purely likes system, at least without abandoning the philosophy of deeper conversation that PB is dedicated to. Having deep opinions on things you care about will always come with a level of discomfort. Frankly, I think we're doing people a disservice if we are to remove that aspect of discussion.
Tolerance to discomfort is essential for survival. I'd rather people have to learn how to regulate their emotions (including learning when to step away from an argument or conversations) due to comments on a community as harmless as PB, other than out in the world.
Hi everyone, we're considering making quite a big change to Pagebound and want to get the community's opinion - please leave your feedback here!
We have debated for a long while the merits of upvotes/downvotes vs a pure "like" system. We deeply believe in community moderation and community curation, and felt that an upvote/downvote system would provide the tooling for such community moderation.
In practice, we've also seen a lot of downsides with this system. While there's no guidance for how to use downvotes, many people use it as a "disagree" button which can make people with unpopular opinions feel unwelcome to share their opinion (for example, if you share that you dislike a beloved character, you may receive downvotes).
Moving to a "likes" only system would hopefully foster an environment where opinions are discussed rather than silently judged, and people are less anxious to engage in the forums.
In the past there have been some very strong opinions both for and against downvotes - let us know what you think below

peregrine commented...
5w
Definitely a correct observation. The comments already here already mentioned the factors that go into it, but I'd also add to this to say that this isn't just for books, it's going for all forms of media too. Most of the talk about the "flattening" of culture (great search term if you want to look it up) comes from music academics/philosophers. I think Netflix deserves an honorary mention for their 'second screen' viewing, (although I'm unsure about the credibility of the source being Matt Damon on Joe Rogan's podcast lol).
My two cents is that it all really boils down to commercialization. Whatever gets the most money is the media that gets the most views, and the media that gets the most views is the media that is easy. Algorithms have a lot of effect on this too (which is the original definition of "flattening") in which the way we view our digital world is through the lens of computers, which require putting things in categories. Therefore, media is smoothed down until they fit in a box, just so it can be seen by people.
On the other hand, there's pushback against this too, on a cultural scale. Small but trendy movements like the lack of algorithms (hi, Pagebound), the offline movement, journaling, and to some further extent, zines and cyberdecks. It's a great rabbit hole to look into once you get into it, and something I've been mulling over a lot.
I’ve recently noticed that newer books are easier too read. The metaphors are obvious, the descriptions short and everything is laid out for you, giving the reader no need to THINK and INTROSPECT on what they are reading. Don’t get me wrong I am happy people are reading and that publishing is accessible to everyone! Despite this I feel as though books are getting dulled down at an ad nauseam. Am I the only one noticing this??

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Carmilla
J. Sheridan Le Fanu
In an isolated castle deep in the Austrian forest, Laura leads a solitary life with only her ailing father for company. Until one moonlit night, a horse-drawn carriage crashes into view, carrying an unexpected guest – the beautiful Carmilla. So begins a feverish friendship between Laura and her mysterious, entrancing companion. But as Carmilla becomes increasingly strange and volatile, prone to eerie nocturnal wanderings, Laura finds herself tormented by nightmares and growing weaker by the day… Pre-dating Dracula by twenty-six years, Carmilla is the original vampire story, steeped in sexual tension and gothic romance.

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The Book Eaters
Sunyi Dean
Out on the Yorkshire Moors lives a secret line of people for whom books are food, and who retain all of a book's content after eating it. To them, spy novels are a peppery snack; romance novels are sweet and delicious. Eating a map can help them remember destinations, and children, when they misbehave, are forced to eat dry, musty pages from dictionaries. Devon is part of The Family, an old and reclusive clan of book eaters. Her brothers grow up feasting on stories of valor and adventure, and Devon—like all other book eater women—is raised on a carefully curated diet of fairy tales and cautionary stories. But real life doesn't always come with happy endings, as Devon learns when her son is born with a rare and darker kind of hunger—not for books, but for human minds.

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The Book Eaters
Sunyi Dean
Out on the Yorkshire Moors lives a secret line of people for whom books are food, and who retain all of a book's content after eating it. To them, spy novels are a peppery snack; romance novels are sweet and delicious. Eating a map can help them remember destinations, and children, when they misbehave, are forced to eat dry, musty pages from dictionaries. Devon is part of The Family, an old and reclusive clan of book eaters. Her brothers grow up feasting on stories of valor and adventure, and Devon—like all other book eater women—is raised on a carefully curated diet of fairy tales and cautionary stories. But real life doesn't always come with happy endings, as Devon learns when her son is born with a rare and darker kind of hunger—not for books, but for human minds.

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Pebble in the Sky (Galactic Empire, #3)
Isaac Asimov
One moment Joseph Schwartz is a happily retired tailor in 1949 Chicago. The next he's a helpless stranger on Earth during the heyday of the first Galactic Empire. Earth, he soon learns, is a backwater, just a pebble in the sky, despised by all the other 200 million planets of the Empire because its people dare to claim it's the original home of man. And Earth is poor, with great areas of radioactivity ruining much of its soil--so poor that everyone is sentenced to death at the age of sixty. Joseph Schwartz is sixty-two. This is young Isaac Asimov's first novel, full of wonders and ideas, the book that launched the novels of the Galactic Empire, culminating in the Foundation books and novels. It is also one of that select group of SF adventures that since the early 1950s has hooked generations of teenagers on reading science fiction. This is Golden Age SF at its finest.

peregrine commented...
9w
My toxic trait is reading books I know are bad 😮💨 I have this philosophy that there's always something to learn from every book, and that even the really badly written ones are still great examples of why there are established "rules" in writing. Some of them also have great ideas with terrible execution, and it's a great exercise of delineating between the two, and coming up with alternatives on how it could have been executed better.
That's why if I ever DNF a book you KNOW it's some real dookie garbage that even I can't grit my teeth through. I think I've only ever willingly DNFed one book last year.
What is your reading toxic trait?
Mine: If I paid for the book, I'm finishing it. Even if I'm hate-reading by chapter five. 💀 & I judge a book by its cover 👀

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Space Opera (Space Opera, #1)
Catherynne M. Valente
A century ago, the Sentience Wars tore the galaxy apart and nearly ended the entire concept of intelligent space-faring life. In the aftermath, a curious tradition was invented—something to cheer up everyone who was left and bring the shattered worlds together in the spirit of peace, unity, and understanding. Once every cycle, the civilizations gather for the Metagalactic Grand Prix—part gladiatorial contest, part beauty pageant, part concert extravaganza, and part continuation of the wars of the past. Instead of competing in orbital combat, the powerful species that survived face off in a competition of song, dance, or whatever can be physically performed in an intergalactic talent show. The stakes are high for this new game, and everyone is forced to compete. This year, though, humankind has discovered the enormous universe. And while they expected to discover a grand drama of diplomacy, gunships, wormholes, and stoic councils of aliens, they have instead found glitter, lipstick, and electric guitars. Mankind will not get to fight for its destiny—they must sing. A band of human musicians, dancers, and roadies have been chosen to represent Earth on the greatest stage in the galaxy. And the fate of their species lies in their ability to rock.


imagine if eurovision had aliens and was 10x more absurd

peregrine commented...
9w
Hey, so some people have already answered your question and I just wanted to say welcome to pagebound! Hope you're not getting bombarded with notifs, the same arguments tend to crop up repeatedly, but there's a mute notifs function coming in a short while. Hope you enjoy your stay!
Had some questions regarding quests. Can anyone create a quest? Also I noticed some quests say sidequest while others say main, so what's the difference?

peregrine commented...
9w
i wonder if in the physical version it is also an image and not really meant to be read? which is still a WILD thing to do and im still trying to make sense of these formatting choices

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The Anthony Bourdain Reader: New, Classic, and Rediscovered Writing
Anthony Bourdain
The definitive, career-spanning collection of writing from Anthony Bourdain, assembled for the first time in book form Anthony Bourdain represented many things to many people—and he had many sides. But no part of his identity was more important to him than that of a writer—it was one of the central ways he saw himself. Revealing Anthony Bourdain’s observant, curious, and hungry mind, The Anthony Bourdain Reader is collection of Bourdain’s best writing and touches on his many pursuits and passions, from restaurant life to family life to the “low life,” from TV to travel through places like Vietnam, Buenos Aires, Paris, and Shanghai. With pointed opinions on the specific use of brioche buns, the devastation of Western foreign policy, and the pain and pleasure of hot pot, this new collection encapsulates the unique brilliance of a once-in-a-generation mind and one of our most distinctive writers. After Bourdain’s years of traveling the globe in search of the very best of cuisine and culture, The Anthony Bourdain Reader is a testament to the enduring and singular voice he crafted, with eclectic and curated chapters, including visceral graphic novel excerpts, some of his most well-loved recipes, and never-before-published pieces. Edited by Bourdain’s longtime agent and friend Kimberly Witherspoon, this is an essential reader for any Bourdain fan as well as a vivid and moving recollection of his life and legacy.

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The Changeling Sea
Patricia A. McKillip
Since the day her father's fishing boat returned without him, Peri and her mother have mourned his loss. Her mother sinks into a deep depression and spends her days gazing out at the sea. Unable to control her anger and sadness any longer, Peri uses the small magic she knows to hex the sea. And suddenly into her drab life come the King's sons—changelings with strange ties to the underwater kingdom—a young magician, and, finally, love.


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House of Leaves
Mark Z. Danielewski
A young family moves into a small home on Ash Tree Lane where they discover something is terribly wrong: their house is bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. Of course, neither Pulitzer Prize-winning photojournalist Will Navidson nor his companion Karen Green was prepared to face the consequences of that impossibility, until the day their two little children wandered off and their voices eerily began to return another story—of creature darkness, of an ever-growing abyss behind a closet door, and of that unholy growl which soon enough would tear through their walls and consume all their dreams.

The Stranger
Albert Camus

peregrine commented...
10w
Oh what a great question. I've never really considered it! Personally, I think of each instance of a CYOA/interactive fiction as a house that you visit exactly once. Not exactly a CYOA but my first run of Road 96 was so satisfying I haven't felt the need to do another (although I'd like to just to see what else it offers. It's a great game.) I'd mark any book I've finished the first time as Finished, but the more narratively satisfying the experience was, the more it feels finished to me.
I used to LOVE reading Choose Your Own Adventure books but haven’t picked one up since I was a child. Some more recent ones have caught my attention though and made their way onto my TBR but before I dive in, I’ve been struggling to determine when to add them to my “Finished” shelf.
How have (or would) you determine when you’ve finished? When you’ve read to the conclusion of your storyline or not until you’ve re-read several times to uncover all possible endings?
When I think about video games I’ve played, I do consider playing through to the end of “my” story to be completing the game, even if there were other endings also available, but maybe this is different?
Would love to hear opinions on this!