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Kallabak

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Found Family in Fantasy
Fairy Tale Retellings
Cozy Fantasy
My Taste
All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries, #1)
A House with Good Bones
Can't Spell Treason Without Tea (Tomes & Tea, #1)
Secrets of the Octopus
The Bone Shard Daughter (The Drowning Empire, #1)
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The Bone Shard War (The Drowning Empire, #3)
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  • Scapegoat: What the Invasive Species Story Gets Wrong
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    Maybe bcause I'm traveling right now, but I have read this like a dozen times and I don't understand. Someone help 😅 Long quote:

    "In 2010, while driving on the highway, I listened to a fascinating episode of the NPR show Radiolab, called “Words.” The hosts described how the use of words—associating things with names—allows us to perceive the world in a completely different way than if we did not have words. They describe an experiment in which rats are placed in an all-white room with food hidden in one of the corners. The rat sees the food, but, before it can reach it, the experimenters spin the rat or otherwise make it disoriented enough to not remember which corner has the food. What the experimenters found is that the rats, in picking which corner to approach, approached each corner an equal number of times—in other words, it had a 25 percent chance of choosing the correct corner. When the experiment is repeated with one of the walls painted blue and the food always placed in the left-hand corner of the blue wall, the wall can then serve as a “navigational cue” to help the rats understand where the food is. But even with this new blue wall, the rats still only guess the correct corner 25 percent of the time. While rats can recognize blue as a distinct color and left as a distinct direction, they cannot piece these two bits of information together. “Left of the blue wall” is impossible for rats to grasp. In a similar experiment, children up to the age of six will behave as the rats did, likely because their spatial awareness (essentially the idea of prepositions—“of,” “under,” “on,” “through,” etc.) takes that long to develop. This experiment suggests that the use of words and the context they provide fundamentally changes how we can literally see the world. When one interviewer asked, “What is thought without language?” the other replied, “Well, I don’t think it’s very much at all.” The use of words to name things gives our world shape, depth, and perspective. Those who can speak or understand a language are inheriting with it the ability to see the world in a unique way, fundamentally informed by that culture. Different cultures will carry different contexts—as such, different languages will offer different perspectives and ways of seeing the world. There is a vast system of meaning, interpreting, and perceiving particular to each culture and language. Every language tells a different story."

    The bold line is where my question comes in. How does an experiment about visual data using a critter we don't speak the language of show that words contextualize visual input? Like, I for sure agree with the overall point we are trying to make here but I cannot grasp why we are using rat eyeballs to make it?? When humans develop enough to be able to conceptualize left of blue are we saying that's because of language, which rats never develop thus left of blue never makes sense to them?

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  • The Fifth Season (The Broken Earth, #1)
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    “Syenite wonders if there is any point in hating a crazy man. It’s not like he’ll notice, anyway.”

    I’m fascinated by the dynamic between Syenite and Alabaster. First off, I think Syenite is being a total jerk and is too hard on Alabaster. BUT I feel like this is all part of NK Jemison’s plan. She could’ve written these chapters from Alabaster’s perspective but she CHOSE Syenite so that we could learn and discover the harsh realities of the world alongside her. I think Syenite is going to have her entire world view broken down bit by bit and I’m interested to see what emerges from the rubble…

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    I am strugglinggggg with this audiobook🫠 I don’t want to pause the book, because it’s going to take a while to get a physical copy from the library, but I fear continuing to listen will ruin the book for me😩

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