instead of the body keeps the score

look into these books that are widely varied on the topic of trauma, with a more empathetic and understanding approach and perspective.

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created by keyaunna

last updated August, 2026

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KEYAUNNA. you have summoned me!!!

My professor has had us read 4 chapters of that fucking book and then has not discussed them at all, so they have just been presented like, totally uncritically, and I have been SO MAD ABOUT IT (but not mad enough to bring it up after 3.5 hours of zoom class and make everyone stay later bc by then my brain is tired).

omd gave me the idea to rant about it in the end of class feedback form which is probably what I will do if she never brings it up but… UGH. I read the book probably a decade ago and I don’t think I thought too much of it, but idk, reading it with 2026 eyes was appalling

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i tried reading it after therapy and COULD not finish that book. it's just so unsympathetic and not only is the author an alleged predator, but also many women have reported he'd S/A'd them.

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Oh no, I literally bought that book for my TBR. 😭 But are you sure it's him? I remember reading that he was fired from his trauma center for being a really toxic manager and for bullying staff, but I don't remember seeing S/A allegations against him. I thought those were about the Trauma Center's director, Joseph. Did something new come out, or am I mixing up the cases?

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I just did a quick search, and I think you're remembering correctly. From what I found, the widely reported allegations against Bessel van der Kolk were about creating a hostile work environment and bullying staff, while Joseph Spinazzola was removed over allegations involving his treatment of female employees and abuse of power. I haven't been able to find any reliable reporting that Bessel himself was accused of sexual assault, so if that's the case, I'd genuinely be interested in seeing a source. I think the two cases are being blurred together.

But I will agree that the book is not very sympathetic.

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You may enjoy the podcast ‘If Books Could Kill’ breakdown on this book. It’s really good and really thorough, and I appreciate how they systematically go through a debunk major portions of it since the author was apparently very problematic at best🫣
I bought it years ago but haven’t ever read it and am getting rid of it now.
Would much rather read the books on this list!

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i've listened to that episode!!!!

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Yes! I love that podcast so much!

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Ayeee🎉🙌 Me too! Mike is awesome - I love him and Aubrey on Maintenance Phase as well!

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Obsessed with both these podcasts tbh, they are so well-researched and thoughtful

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They are both excellent pods!!

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It’s so true - the research and nuance is impeccable in both of these podcasts!✨🤗

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The Michael Hobbes extended universe of podcasts is so good

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I was just going to say this podcast just did an ep about this book!

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Liz!! If you ever want to present your thoughts on that book, just know I'm ready with my listening cap on, notebook and pen in hand! I'm ready for a 3.5 hr zoom class of your rantings!

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omg lol 😂 so I did read the whole book probably a decade ago. But I don’t much remember it. I have had to read 4 chapters for class and when I say they have been so enraging, I mean like, I am in my room screaming “WHAT” all by myself. Bc I am the dystopian lady here, I think this is a salient thing for me to present… it doesn’t represent the content but it does represent how goddamn bonkers aspects of it are, unexpectedly and (this is key) FOR NO FUCKING REASON. Apropos of NOTHING, the author says that John Bowlby, a literally acclaimed child psychiatrist who developed attachment theory (as in when we look at a problematic man and deem him “avoidant attachment final boss”), told him (the author) that George Orwell’s classic book, 1984 had been inspired by little British boys from upper-class families being sent to boarding school at young ages. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. YEAH. What the fuck, you fucking weirdo? What a fucking weird thing to say. This has absolutely nothing to do with the bulk of the content, which is… gratuitously graphic when addressing topics like child abuse and SA/CSA in a way that my 2026 brain finds so harmful, and alarming to see in a book marketed for just like, regular degular people at the goddamn airport. (My approximately 2016 brain apparently didn’t feel that way, but that was a brain in its 20s that spent a frankly unwise amount of time listening to true crime podcasts, so that brain doesn’t know what’s up or down anymore). Other notables from the 4 recently read chapters:

  • fat people at a medical weight loss clinic apparently were comprised “mostly” of folks who had sexually abused as children 🤨
  • the author believes psychiatric medications make the folks taking them “more tractable but” they “also impair their ability to feel pleasure and curiosity, to grow and develop emotionally and intellectually, and to become contributing members of society”
  • sentence presented without comment from me: “There are hundreds of thousands of children like the ones I am about to describe, and they absorb enormous resources, often without appreciable benefit. They end up filling our jails, our welfare rolls, and our medical clinics.”
  • another sentence presented without comment: “How do you turn a newborn baby with all its promise and infinite capacities into a thirty-year-old homeless drunk?”

And then of course you have the actual researchers he has cited in the book saying that he cherry-picked their research or misrepresented it to fit his narrative…

And then you have the author being fired from the trauma center he founded back in 2018 for… some kind of workplace malpractice vis a vis his employees. Unclear whether we are dealing with an Ellen DeGeneres or a Matt Lauer situation there.

And then you have the author being an expert witness in the 90s with recovered memories vis a vis CSA… and still in the book espousing a lot of pseudoscience, including the recovered memories shtick

I could probably keep going but these were the mains

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😮‍💨 and that concludes my rage spiral

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"also impair their ability to feel pleasure and curiosity, to grow and develop emotionally and intellectually, and to become contributing members of society"

"There are hundreds of thousands of children like the ones I am about to describe, and they absorb enormous resources, often without appreciable benefit. They end up filling our jails, our welfare rolls, and our medical clinics."

oh .... oh that's not .... someone get that man away from people. all people. remove his license and then kick him off of Earth

bratz dolls making a judging disgusted face

I'm appalled that this book was everywhere! This was being recommended to people left and right, especially victims of SA! That's how I got it recommended to me, and I'm so so happy I never read it! Fuck this man.

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FUCK THIS MAN

also sorry for giving you just a WALL of text 😭

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omg please don't apologize! I love seeing walls of text on pb!!

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I had no idea it was THIS bad. I was a little morbidly curious to maybe hate read it but no, it will make me way too mad. I'm so sorry you are having this used as an academic text???? Wtf??? I pray for your cortisol levels 🙏

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Again, other than the general points, the specific ones were from JUST 4 CHAPTERS (and I had more). I have been thinking about how to address it with my teacher bc she just assigned those chapters with no disclaimer or even discussion afterward, but like, idk, I can’t be silent anymore! She is gonna HEAR FROM ME on Monday

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It's just so bad!! How have so many people recommended this?? Good luck with your convo, I hope it goes well and your teacher takes on board the criticism.

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omg I got a notification from Liz - oh blue cat sitting on laptop that is initially happy and then makes a serious, disturbed face

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HSODKFKDLFDL

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Thank you for this! I have never read that book but recently listened to a podcast episode about it and was shocked at the sort of content it has vs its shining reputation.

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Fellow If Books Could Kill listener? 🤝

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You know it 😁

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Hell yeah - love that podcast, Mike is awesome! I love him and Aubrey on Maintenance Phase as well. Both such well researched, nuanced shows. ✨

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I learn so much from both podcasts... mostly about who to avoid like the plague 😂

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Another great list! Thank you!

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yay!!!!!

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lovely list!! putting this in my back pocket for when people bring up the body keeps the score to give alternatives that are much more empathetic!

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glad to hear it :D

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Would also recommend “The wisdom of your body” by Hillary McBride

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noted!!!

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Bless you for making this list! 🥹🥹🥹💜💜💜

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Thank YOU for this list!! I am so surprised how often that book is recommended to folks with PTSD considering the content of the book and how problematic the author is....so glad to have some alternatives to look at instead! 😊

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of course!!!!

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I have been recommended that book so many times. I almost read it but I tend to stay away from self-help books in general. I’m glad I passed.

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for sure. there are so much better books on trauma out there.

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Do you know anything about The Body Remembers by Babette Rothschild?? Because as far as I can tell, it covers a lot of the same ground as TBKTS and came out 14 years earlier, but it's like it's been totally obscured by the success of van der Kolk's work.

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i haven't heard of it no! have you read it?

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I have not! I can't remember where I found out about it!

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