Urgently seeking suggestions, any and all input is welcome! A list for men in fantasy who are pathetic, reminiscent of kicked dogs, often described as poor little meow meows, drowning in their own emptiness, and/or generally have an intense aura of being a sad loser with no life. Having a capacity to be fixed is entirely optional. If you want to demonstrate why a man is a loser, feel free to do so at great length in the comments so that we all may further our studies in male patheticology.
created by ayzrules
last updated November, 2025
I think Howl’s Moving Castle would fit nicely here -- I will cite specifically Howl’s hair tantrum scene where he somewhat dramatically yells “Despair! Anguish! Horror!”
Definitely seconding this one
MY MEOW MEOW 🥰 He's such a loser 🤩
omg that is PERFECTION, thank you so much
Yes, Ayz!! May I offer The Devils by Joe Abercrombie? 3 out of the 4 main males are very pathetic 😂
Brother Diaz is definitely a pathetic little meow meow!
Yes! Balthazar is just a loser in general 😂. Jakob, while impressive at first, is so pathetic when battle starts and whenever he complains about his old man body
yessssssssssssss love to see it! added!
Can I recommend Ouyang from The Radiant Emperor Duology?
can you? you must
Ah!! Seconding! Competent in battle but a tragic meow meow when it comes to matters of the heart
this just makes me want to read it even more! added!
Since you are looking for suggestions: Assassin’s Apprentice for SURE. Poor Fitz
Art of Prophecy also would fall under this. Spoiled kid being picked for a prophecy that eventually doesn’t get fulfilled
came to comment my love FitzChivalry - he bathes in self-pity every morning.
The blue print
you could honestly add every single Fitz book from RotE on here because it does not get any better
Thank you, i've added them! both of these guys sound like peak loser material, i'm sat
god i love losers
Omg what like character trope would ur partner be? Feel free to exaggerate or not up to u!!!
They're genuinely so funny, i love a man who is here to be sad and pathetic for my entertainment specifically
When Among Crows by Veronica Roth would fit here, Dymitr is definitely a sad, tortured man
Oooh thank you! added!
Arthur from Gifted & Talented by Olivie Blake thrives on being pathetic 🙂↕️
Nice nice, added! 🙂↕️ 🙂↕️
I wanted to suggest him but I was like I should probably read more of the book before I go calling him pathetic. But two of his chapters in and he set my pathetic man alarms off immediately.
oh he is the kind of meow meow that makes it his entire personality
Oh fantastic I like him even more
i want arthur to canonically know that the phrase poor little meow meow comes from an unhinged tweet about bts member suga

Arthur would have retweeted with: #showerthoughts
😂😂😂 hilarious honestly. great loserism on display from this man!
the brandana meter
You put a man with wet eyes near me and I start crackling like a geiger counter
I'll be sure to let you know if anyone else in the edgy dudebro book gets wetter eyes, so far they're pathetic on the DL but experienced haters and connoisseurs (me) are able to clock the core patheticism
lmao I love this list and the books included
I greatly appreciate your support and enthusiasm for my studies of male patheticism 🙂↕️ (lmaooo thank you!)
Oh!!! Several people have described Nic Miles from my fantasy novella The Awakening of Lora Abernathy as "God's wettest little meow meow, straight outta the cardboard box"! 😂😂
i’ll come back when i’ve finished the book i’m currently reading 🙈🙈🙈 ML seems like a really great contender for this list of patheiticism lol
thank you for your assistance on this very vital and essential matter!
Quicksilver with Kingfisher.... I said what I said
is he the guy on the cover? he looks like a loser indeed!
Dracula ? I've read it a while ago so I'm not sure if it fits but I remember Harker being kind of a dumb dumb
i trust your take, added!
He's my dumb dumb 🥺
Obviously dumb dumb was meant as a compliment in this instance 😬😬
Don't worry I took it as a compliment
i love this list, but i fear i can only take so much male patheticism before i just never look in the direction of another man again (maybe this is a good thing??) lmao
Midnight Ruin by Katee Roberts. The ex boyfriend is completely pathetic, and the fmc makes him crawl on the floor like a dog 😌
okayyyyyyyyyyyy i love men crawling.... i'm sat for this book, i must go look it up. added!
I have an nonfiction recommendation: an author who, because he wasn’t labeled gifted, decided to write a book about how to redefine intelligence. But all he does is whine about how he wasn’t identified as gifted. The book is filled with his envy and anger. There’s little science in it. It’s Ungifted by Scott Barry Kaufman. On second thought, don’t include it. It’s not a fun or even interesting read.
💀💀💀 gotta love when men are Like That lmao I’m only including books that have fantastical elements on this list, but thanks for the note either way - I’ll have to hate read some reviews about it later LOL